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Does the 13inch still have the same screen size.

And since the new ones are now out, for basic stuff, which would be better, White Macbook, or pro?
 
A truer statement could not be said. To buy C2D after the last refresh was nuts as well, but this is even moreso. I understand why Apple can't refresh as regularly as, say, Dell, but this is just outdated. Clearly they've just got a surplus of C2Ds floating about that Intel gave them a good price for, knowing Apple would likely be the only company to buy them and then tout them as the next big thing.

Probably because *brand x* doesn't integrate (solder) their CPUs into their logic board the way Apple does? And probably because of that they can buy whatever batch of CPUs and throw them in whatever model.

You want that? Buy *brand x*.

Remember. We (positive voters) like Apple because of the testing that goes into their products to ensure they work. There's nothing whipped together last minute to stay up to date. The products sell because of the products they are, not because they have the latest technology that was slapped in simply to be there. You want something slapped together, then buy it. But be prepared to complain about feature x,y & z that are cool but they are missing a,b&c along with bug d,e&f which are going to be released on the next version. Fact is nobody gets it right the first time as consistently as Apple when it comes to hardware.

Just like they said in the OS4 keynote, not the first to do *x*, but the best.

Not sure what people what to be improved on in the design of the MBP. Probably the best designed portable computer of all time in terms of aesthetics and performance. If you change it, you do it for a real good reason. You don't change what works. The other guys are constantly changing because they are stumbling to find a design this good.
 
Happy Birthday to me!! *Birthday Cake* Now here is the new MBP 15" Core i7 just released today.

Well thanks from ME!!!!

Pretty good birthday present for me. The real question is are they avalible at BB yet? :)
 
Thank you Apple

Thank you for proving that my decision to change to an 13" Core i3 Arrandale Fujitsu laptop was not wrong... really Thanks.
 
more expensive base models? that's a bit surprising. what else is a surprise is seeing Core 2 Duo in the 13" models.

my brother wants to get a new mac, and was waiting for these new MacBook Pros to be released so he could make a final decision. he decided to go with the $850 15.5" i5 Sony Viao with Windows 7... $850!! apple sure is a luxury item.
 
Yes it's not the very last Intel processor, but do you need that in the first place ?

Why purchase new at all then? Go refurbished old model or second hand. This attitude to not expect great things and up to date cost/performance ratio is just plain silly. This update hurts apple as a notebook choice and brand. In conclusion it's just another step in the gadget direction.
 
As I've been saying for a while, there isn't enough room on the 13" logic board for both the 2-die Arrandale and a dedicated graphics chip. And Jobs is loath to give customers options like removing the optical drive.

What Steve said was that "new Macs will take Apple to the next level."

Arrandale, man, Arrandale.

What? you know other companies have done this already right?
 
To be honest I'm not that interested in upgrading to the new MacBook Pro line. Okay it has the new i5 and i7 intel CPU but hey it is not quad core and I am still happy with my 2 month old 2.8Ghz Core2Duo MacBook Pro and there are still loads I can do on it and besides I have my brand new iMac i5 quad core if I want to do powerful video editing and audio recording.

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Well, even though I am massively disappointed with the 13" update lacking any i5 chips, I pulled the trigger on the new base 13", hoping the GeForce 320M will be a large improvement over the 9400M(It's probably twice as fast).
 
Probably because *brand x* doesn't integrate (solder) their CPUs into their logic board the way Apple does? And probably because of that they can buy whatever batch of CPUs and throw them in whatever model.

You want that? Buy *brand x*.

Remember. We (positive voters) like Apple because of the testing that goes into their products to ensure they work. There's nothing whipped together last minute to stay up to date. The products sell because of the products they are, not because they have the latest technology that was slapped in simply to be there. You want something slapped together, then buy it. But be prepared to complain about feature x,y & z that are cool but they are missing a,b&c along with bug d,e&f which are going to be released on the next version. Fact is nobody gets it right the first time as consistently as Apple when it comes to hardware.

Just like they said in the OS4 keynote, not the first to do *x*, but the best.

Not sure what people what to be improved on in the design of the MBP. Probably the best designed portable computer of all time in terms of aesthetics and performance. If you change it, you do it for a real good reason. You don't change what works. The other guys are constantly changing because they are stumbling to find a design this good.

This guy speaks absolute sence
 
Depends on what you're using it for. For most people it's no different.

Running statistical programs and possibly Matlab as well (until the cluster at my lab is set up) and running a different stats program over Parallels most likely with other stuff open on the OS X side. My 2.16 MB with 3GB ram has trouble with Parallels and my stats program and with some games I play on that side but that's also due to the ****** video card.
 
wow, i actually feel bad for all those 13" buyers who have been holding out for months for this update. Glad I got my 13" five months ago, this update would not have been worth the wait :D
 
The 15" and 17" are larger laptops with more features and I would imagine they have larger batteries to support the increase in performance.
Keep in mind they were using 25W Penryn Pxxxx processors just yesterday. The gains in battery life today are marginal except in the 13" model.

Wait for what? A battery life bump?
Take the 13" MacBook Pro and put it in a plastic body for $999.
 
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