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Apple Releases Xcode 4 to Developers, Coming Soon to Mac App Store for $4.99
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I remember just yesterday, when the latest version of Xcode was available to everyone for free.
Like someone else said, what's next... iTunes ? Mail ? Quicktime ? Safari ?
After all, first it was Facetime, now it's Xcode. It's coming guys. It seems every Apple software that moved from HTTP downloads to the MAS gets a fee tacked on.
No. I'm paid ADC member so, I didn't pay for this.
If I was going to pay for it, I'd probably wait and see if it comes free with Lion, and keep using XCode 3 until then. After all, XCode 3 is enough for now to develop for iOS 4.3 and 10.6.
Look what happens with Facetime? It costs 0.99 for Snow Leopard but it'll be free with Lion. My gut's saying that this is a similar situation.
There is no disconnect. We only need the compiler, we don't need the IDE. So we are forced to pay for something we don't need to need, where is the logic in that? And if they indeed start charging for the compiler toolchain, it would be a punch in the face to all the scientific and open-source community.
I remember just yesterday, when the latest version of Xcode was available to everyone for free.
Like someone else said, what's next... iTunes ? Mail ? Quicktime ? Safari ?
After all, first it was Facetime, now it's Xcode. It's coming guys. It seems every Apple software that moved from HTTP downloads to the MAS gets a fee tacked on.
I'd prefer that if the OS became free. It'd probably cost less if I bought only the apps I actually use from Apple.
Ha.
Windows Server is not scalable to that degree. It's for small and medium sized organisations. You've got a better chance of finding a datacentre running OS X than you have Server 2008. Apple, Google, the Government, hell even Microsoft, use Linux and Unix for that.
I understand you weren't talking about Windows server, but if you're writing software in Visual Studio it's going to run on Windows.
I remember just yesterday, when the latest version of Xcode was available to everyone for free.
Like someone else said, what's next... iTunes ? Mail ? Quicktime ? Safari ?
After all, first it was Facetime, now it's Xcode. It's coming guys. It seems every Apple software that moved from HTTP downloads to the MAS gets a fee tacked on.
And I bet both will be free with Lion....So what is your point? It does cost Apple a lot of money to make these apps and support them.
And SOX would allow for a free OS ?
They can make it 0.99$ in that case. Not a big deal.
....after you pay $99 for the Mac developer program, of course.
(Non-sarcastic reply: it's not available to free ADC accounts.)Dudes, stop whining. This is a great tool and as a serious dev you're either an ADC member or can cough up the $4.99.
For those referring to the M$ Express editions: have you ever tried to use it for serious development? The most obvious features are removed (refactoring, unit testing, breakpoint list ... just to name a few) so you buy a full version for several hundred bucks.
For those referring to the M$ Express editions: have you ever tried to use it for serious development? The most obvious features are removed (refactoring, unit testing, breakpoint list ... just to name a few) so you buy a full version for several hundred bucks.
I think i solved the xcode download error!!!
Hey guys, for anyone getting the "Access Denied" error try this:
When you log in there is a new ToS agreement at the top. Read it and accept it now try your download. It may work. (It did for me.).
Hey guys, for anyone getting the "Access Denied" error try this:
When you log in there is a new ToS agreement at the top. Read it and accept it now try your download. It may work. (It did for me.).
An MSDN subscription is in no way necessary or even mandatory for commercial development. Not even slightly. It's a nice upgrade, but most small to medium developers won't need it. Microsoft has SO MUCH better developer resources than Apple and the vast majority of them are entirely free. You don't even need an account.
In the Apple world however, the $99 developer program is a must for iOS developers. You won't get anywhere without it.
And is that a new requirement ? Because otherwise, why was Xcode 3 free before. And is that a requirement that only applies to Apple, otherwise why can other companies still give away software free of charge ?
Or is that just the big excuse Apple throws out ?
The mystery that is Apple, eh! Notice they have released iTunes, QuickTime Player and I think Safari for free through major versions too.
Personally I've never bought into the Sarbanes-Oxley excuse. I've never seen anyone discuss where it says in SO where a company has to charge the end user for a major software version change.
Maybe has others have speculated, the charge is mostly to cover the bandwidth. Although they haven't done that before for Xcode, they could have changed their mind.
So you are whining about $5 that you don't intend to spend any time soon. Perhaps when you upgrade to Lion, you'll get Xcode 4 for free on that disc. Of course non of us know that yet.
In the end, Apple has the right to charge for their products. It doesn't matter if said product was free in the past.
We're a rather large organisation and we have 0 OS X Server in our datacenter (and we're not about to, with no hardware to run it on). But we do have plenty of Windows Server 2008 R2 boxes around, some even running front-end applications.
I think you haven't been in a large organisation in a while if you think you have more chances of seeing OS X there than Windows Server.
This has NOTHING to do Sarbanes-Oxley. Please educate yourselves. You are simply namedropping here, because it sounds cool.
Someone should point out to Apple that they gave Safari 5 away for free when they should have charged.
Actually, I'd be ok with all new OSs running at $29 (vs. $129) and paying for some apps à la carte. I don't think I ever used iWeb.
Nah, they dropped the iOS upgrade charge for iPod touch users. The software update is free of charge. It's not Sarbanes-Oxley (that was the original explanation for why Apple was charging for iOS updates for iPod touch owners).
Are you kidding? MFC has been deprecated for 10 years now, and luckily it's buried under 50 feet of concrete.
Try .NET.
They do, and I have the right to be pissed off about it. You have a right to sheepishly accept it. Everyone has the right to do what they are doing here. It doesn't change that I'm pissed off about it, Apple is now getting 5$ from people that absolutely do want to upgrade and you're just accepting it as something "inevitable". Will you do the same when Safari 6 switches to the MAS and stops being free ?
