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I am sure you can get gcc somewhere.

As far as FileMerge goes, just use the old one on Snow Leopard if you have to. Anyway I think it will be distributed with Lion when it's available.

Also $5 is almost like a token... having used XCode4 for about a month, it's well worth 5 dollars.

edit: Seriously .. it's $5 ...... Jesus, I can't believe we are debating about 5 freaking dollars.

I Agree, its £2.99 in the UK, 1 litre of petrol is now £1.30 - £1.40, £2.99 is nothing, Apple are entitled to make money just like everyone else.

Xcode can make you serious money on the app store, a few downloads of your app will cover this
 
This sets a bad premise. $5 is chump change considering the actual value of the software and Apple's R&D costs to create it. Apple ate this cost in the past because it needed more developers. The only reason to charge $5 for it is simply to prime us to become used to the notion of paying for it. Expect to pay 10s or hundreds of times more for it in the future.
 
It's a bit of a shame to charge $5, but I suspect it's only for people who want the next version. It will probably come free with new Macs as it always has.
I also wonder if it's only free for paid developer accounts because, as it stands, I'm on the free one.
Me too, and unfortunately so, however like you say I expected it'll come free with Lion, so I'll likely just wait and upgrade to Lion when it ships as I usually jump for the new OS versions, and while a ton of the XCode 4 features are ones I've been waiting for for ages (single window and live errors, come-on, why weren't these available sooner?!) I'm perfectly happy to stick with XCode 3 until then.
 
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Can't believe so many people have a problem paying $5? Are mac developers really so poor??

This is an essential tool that can make you a lot of money. It's a very small price to pay!
 
If you or the organisation you work for can't justify $4.99 for this software, then something somewhere is badly broken.

Look, we pay millions every month just to power our computers (seriously!). The money isn't the issue. But getting an extra software license for my desktop machine is a minor hassle (and I can't pay for it myself; no personally-owned software allowed on work machines), and that annoyance is enough to make me switch back to Linux.
 
The express version of studio sucks. Good luck developing a meaningful application with it. I've developed in .net since beta 1.0. You won't find any successful dev shop using the express edition.

They don't suck at all. You get a much more polished and often even more powerful IDE than Xcode. I have no idea what you mean by "meaningful application".
 
Back in the NeXT days, these development tools suite (Xcode, Interface Builder and WebObjects, etc) cost $50,000. Now $5. Unreal.
 
So I guess you only need GCC then. which is free.
As far as IDE goes, some say vi is the best IDE ever. again free. :rolleyes:

Again, not the point. The point is Xcode 3 is still free and always was free. Why this sudden urge to gouge 5$ out of developers that bring content to your platform and thus make it relevent to your users ?

Mac software = Mac users.
iOS software = iOS users.
 
Interesting, I downloaded Xcode for free from Apple's site a while ago, and I'm not a developer or anything. How come it was free before? Not that I'd mind paying such a small price for it!
 
Wow, this is getting ridiculous.
I want a compiler on my Unix machine, why do they think I switched from Windows?

I only ever use gcc and FileMerge, can I get them some other way than by installing Xcode?

Use terminal.app in the util folder
 
We are not complaining about the $5. We are complaining that there is no free version, and that it WAS free and became not free. Teaching someone how to develop an app for their first time on Windows, you'd use VSE, and if they get serious about it later, then you'd go for the more expensive versions.

If every app in Lion is gonna want an charge, I'm leaving.

Imagine you only get Finder, Sys Prefs, App Store, and Safari. Everything else is a paid download from the App Store (iCal, $0.99, Photo Booth, $0.99, QuickTime, $10, Mail, $5).
 
ROFL

Hope I don't have to ever "go Dutch" with you in a restaurant...

No personally-owned software is allowed on my work machines. $5 or $5000, either way I have to submit paperwork to make it happen.
 
Wouldn't the $5 be a way to track and enforce a licence agreement. By making someone go through this process the licensed copy would be associated with a credit card and a person/organization. Apple doesn't want your $5; they want to know who's got the software.

Why not use $1? My guess is Apple lawyers thought it was too trivial? A buck isn't what it use to be. Did anyone read the license agreement yet?
 
If you dont want to pay for it there are alternative 'methods' of obtaining it within the coming weeks I'm sure :p
 
Again, not the point. The point is Xcode 3 is still free and always was free. Why this sudden urge to gouge 5$ out of developers that bring content to your platform and thus make it relevent to your users ?

Mac software = Mac users.
iOS software = iOS users.

First of all, it's not from all developers. Most developers are already developer connection members and get it for free, still. This is only a problem for hobby developers. And they can keep doing it with XCode 3.
 
Can't believe so many people have a problem paying $5? Are mac developers really so poor??

This is an essential tool that can make you a lot of money. It's a very small price to pay!

Who cares about the 5$, the problem is it used to be 100% free, 0$. Why the sudden greed ?

First of all, it's not from all developers. Most developers are already developer connection members and get it for free, still. This is only a problem for hobby developers. And they can keep doing it with XCode 3.

I'm an ADC member. I still have to pay. You can to be registered with the 99$ program. Hobby developers ? Professional Mac software doesn't require the 99$ fee because you're not forced to go through the App Store to sell it.
 
We are not complaining about the $5. We are complaining that there is no free version, and that it WAS free and became not free. Teaching someone how to develop an app for their first time on Windows, you'd use VSE, and if they get serious about it later, then you'd go for the more expensive versions.

If every app in Lion is gonna want an charge, I'm leaving.

Imagine you only get Finder, Sys Prefs, App Store, and Safari. Everything else is a paid download from the App Store (iCal, $0.99, Photo Booth, $0.99, QuickTime, $10, Mail, $5).
I'd actually prefer if Lion came for free and Apple charged 0.99$ for every extra app. There are many apple apps I don't use.
 
Didn't the App Store require all apps to be all in one? I seem to recall Xcode installing itself and it's debug hooks all over the place. Is that no longer the case?
 
Who cares about the 5$, the problem is it used to be 100% free, 0$. Why the sudden greed ?

Maybe they spent more money for developing this one than they did the previous ones and wanted to get it back ASAP. Who knows. But I wouldn't call this "greed". If they were greedy, they'd charge 1000$ for it.
 
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