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Apple Not Trying Hard Enough to Protect Users Against Surveillance, Researchers Say

 
I am interested in this too. How will it work for you?
I've already done it. Years ago. Linux Server (Ubuntu-based) running on an old Windows 8 machine, with Samba, wifi on local only, Plex, tons of media loaded, and it's where I have all my old APKs of favorite Android apps (I don't use Play Store). On mobile I use an old version of ES File Explorer, on Windows or Linux it just shows up in network.
 
I've already done it. Years ago. Linux Server (Ubuntu-based) running on an old Windows 8 machine, with Samba, wifi on local only, Plex, tons of media loaded, and it's where I have all my old APKs of favorite Android apps (I don't use Play Store). On mobile I use an old version of ES File Explorer, on Windows or Linux it just shows up in network.
What devices can you sync with a NAS?
 
OK - so you seem to understand this process, so it seems worth asking you. It sounds like Apple is not using an exact match, otherwise it'd lead to arms race between pedophiles and Apple, for Apple would have to add a new hash if so much as a pixel was edited in a CSAM image. It doesn't sound like Apple is doing that. It sounds like Apple is doing an approximate match, which must be down to perceptual similarity, assuming the hashing system is some sort of dimension reduction/compression that represents either explicitly, or implicitly, features of the image. That means false positives are likely to involve a lot of exposed skin (I presume that is something often seen in child porn). So... Apple's hair-brained algorithm has a hissy fit over some image in your library and then some human being at Apple decrypts an image of your partner wearing lingerie. Is that about right?

Yes. This is a concern. I know people in long distance relationships that FaceTime and like to send pics. If there is a match, are people fine with them going through their iMessage pics?

Also, will Apple be making a judgement call on the image? What if its a 20 year old that looks a little young? How will Apple verify it’s not a child? Or how can we protect 17 year olds that look mid 20? Do they have access to our drivers license to see our age?
 
Just because it is in TOS does not make it legal and I am sure the legality of this is going to be litigated.
I agree with you.

Didn't we buy apple products because they advertised privacy? Like on a daily basis, in many ads, constantly everywhere. It was their moto sometime ago.

Didnt they tell us here don't buy android because they will only be supported for 2 years so instead we chose to buy apple products? What are we supposed to do now? Not to upgrade?? I assume many of us bought them because Apple advertised support for years and privacy.
 
Apple knows they won’t walk back, nor bother to have a discussion. Either apple is evil or someone is forcing apple.
The "smartness" of a phone is something like 1% dedicated to User's usability and 99% dedicated to have you under control. Just in case you miss-behave revealing some truth one day. Just in case you want people to open their eyes. So, for every contact you have in your phone, for every place you have been, here is Apple (or Google or Facebook) working for who ever facilitates them privilege access to technology and thus consequent revenues.
The important thing to understand here is that a smartphone is just a clockwork orange to make our sovereignty explode, dilute, disappear. It is more of a Big Brother's tool than a human tool. Their users are just epsilons enchanted by fancy colors and virtual (and not so virtual) possibilities. And soon the law will obligate you wearing always one, like having a driver's license.
Because, after all, why should you have something to hide if you are a good citizen? So, whenever you buy an Apple computer or an iPhone, you are collaborating with a company that cannot stop increasing their sales, cannot stop following the Government's secret services needs, cannot stop making up narrations to backup their theoretical legitimacy of having all your data, cannot stop denying that they are doing everything for your safety. Do not expect a dog to meow of a cat to bark.
 
And where is your limit? Should the postal service be allowed to open all letters and check their contents. Whould it be fine with you to regulary check every apartment. And do not forget, that most abuse of children happens in their family, so maybe we should question and examine all children regulary?
Yeah, it’s clear you don’t get what’s going on with this tech. Imagine if someone had the superpower to just glance at an individual and know if they were abusing a child. You would not tell that individual to wear a blindfold because their mere glance was an invasion of your privacy, you would utilize them to bring abusers to justice.

This tech is like that superpower, but using ML instead of fiction. It doesn’t scan and catalog your photos, it looks for something specific and spits out a pass/fail. If the bot flags too many photos it spits out a fail and a human checks to makes sure it’s right. But if you pass nothing happens and you get to continue living your life in anonymity and privacy. IE, a soulless robot does the checking, which has no memory, no prejudice, not even the slightest bit of interest or understanding of what is in your photos except that it doesn’t match a predetermined data set of child abuse material.

If a human came to check your home regularly that would be one thing, but having an autonomous system simply verify that you are not a child abuser is another thing entirely and you would do well to note the difference.
 
The "smartness" of a phone is something like 1% dedicated to User's usability and 99% dedicated to have you under control. Just in case you miss-behave revealing some truth one day. Just in case you want people to open their eyes. So, for every contact you have in your phone, for every place you have been, here is Apple (or Google or Facebook) working for who ever facilitates them privilege access to technology and thus consequent revenues.
The important thing to understand here is that a smartphone is just a clockwork orange to make our sovereignty explode, dilute, disappear. It is more of a Big Brother's tool than a human tool. Their users are just epsilons enchanted by fancy colors and virtual (and not so virtual) possibilities. And soon the law will obligate you wearing always one, like having a driver's license.
Because, after all, why should you have something to hide if you are a good citizen? So, whenever you buy an Apple computer or an iPhone, you are collaborating with a company that cannot stop increasing their sales, cannot stop following the Government's secret services needs, cannot stop making up narrations to backup their theoretical legitimacy of having all your data, cannot stop denying that they are doing everything for your safety. Do not expect a dog to meow of a cat to bark.
Now, one last thing: Have you ever setup a Xiaomi phone? At least Apple and US Government has some elegance when collecting your data. Other Governments are directly human trafficking.
 
The problem is Apple choose to install surveillance software on devices without consent and created this problem. The user only has Apple's word on what the software does and their is no way to verify it. Mind you no other company installs this type of software on your device.
Telling the whole world about it months in advance and literally asking your consent in updated Terms&Conditions = “without consent”

What drugs are you sloppery slippers on?
 
Game over bashers????? 🤣 🤣 😅Should I assume you are having a party because your team "won" ?

Anyway if you have to store your photos online, which service would you choose now? icloud or Google photos?
iCloud Photos.
I can count to 1 trillion and I understand probability.
 
Game over bashers????? 🤣 🤣 😅Should I assume you are having a party because your team "won" ?

Anyway if you have to store your photos online, which service would you choose now? icloud or Google photos?
You can use sync.com which truly is encrypted, as well as creating a Cryptomator folder in iCloud and storing your photos there free from prying Apple or government eyes.
 
And where is your limit? Should the postal service be allowed to open all letters and check their contents. Whould it be fine with you to regulary check every apartment. And do not forget, that most abuse of children happens in their family, so maybe we should question and examine all children regulary?
What kind of analogies are that?
This would be comparable to the postal bin where you deposit your letters somehow flagging letters with CSAM inside them without opening them. Only if that postal bin detects a certain amount of your letters have CSAM inside them then the postal service checks those letter's contents.
 
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Telling the whole world about it months in advance and literally asking your consent in updated Terms&Conditions = “without consent”

What drugs are you sloppery slippers on?
The problem is Apple has seriously altered the TOS, Apple does not own the phone just the software that is leased to you, and I do not imagine them installing CSAM software to monitor your photos is going to go over well with a judge since Apple does not own the phone.
 
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I'm pleased that Apple is sticking to its guns. I think anyone who is suspicious of this may have something to hide.
Child abuse is everywhere in society and the more tools we have to bring the abusers to account the better.
 
You can use sync.com which truly is encrypted, as well as creating a Cryptomator folder in iCloud and storing your photos there free from prying Apple or government eyes.
between sync.com and pcloud.com which one do you think is better?
I was googling about cryptomator now and I read a lot about boxcryptor too. Are you experienced with the software?
I don't mind paying for the software if it works well so I don't necessarily need a free service.

Thanks a lot!
 
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