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Apple Remembers Nelson Mandela on Its Homepage
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Of course this is in the tracks of the old think different ads and Steve Jobs obviously compared himself and his company to some of the people from those ads: Einstein, Gandhi, Hitchcock. And sure, he was a visionary man who achieved a lot.
But and this is the difference one cannot deny in the case of Apple it all comes at a price. Not a single second would Gandhi or Mandela have approved of the business practices Apple is carrying out in Asia, for example. Of course, Apple is no better than, say, Coca Cola.
Fine ads, great products, but let's recognize that this tribute to Mandela cannot be taken for the altruistic statement that some seem to suggest in this thread. Yes, the world needs different thinking: ours, the customers'.
I mean, people are dying.
But and this is the difference one cannot deny in the case of Apple it all comes at a price. Not a single second would Gandhi or Mandela have approved of the business practices Apple is carrying out in Asia, for example. Of course, Apple is no better than, say, Coca Cola.
Fine ads, great products, but let's recognize that this tribute to Mandela cannot be taken for the altruistic statement that some seem to suggest in this thread. Yes, the world needs different thinking: ours, the customers'.
I mean, people are dying.
You're serious about the pope? That conservative person that prohibits the use of a condom, homosexual behavior and so much more out-dated ridiculous nonsense??
I know all about this. All I was pointing out is that you didn't need to kill people to beat colonial intrusions. Peaceful disobedience can work as proven by Gandhi.
Except I doubt Apple had a picture of John Paul II on their homepage after he died.
Why did all of Ted Cruz's fans come to Macrumors?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/...Mandela-tribute-on-Facebook-His-fans-go-crazy
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/...Mandela-tribute-on-Facebook-His-fans-go-crazy
It's sad, isn't it?
Unfortunately, MacRumors 100 post minimum on political articles is indeed useful. People have no respect for this tremendous human being that did so much for mankind. His willingness to fight for democracy was inspiring. For those who only want to see the bad things of life, find a different website to exhaust your problems. Respect this Man and what he stood for.
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Well, Religion and 'think different' are pretty much polar opposites. Religion is a corrupt institution in constant need of money. In return for their money, religious followers get a list of things they shouldn't do. To each his own.
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The word 'terrorism' is being thrown around a bit too easily.
Sure ANC was labelled a Terrorist organization.
The world is not black and white. Something a lot of people seem to forget.
Apartheid was and is a truly an horrendous system, thankfully no longer practiced in South Africa.
Nelson Mandela, upon release, could have taken up arms in complete and utter bitterness for being jailed for 27 years, but told his supporters "No violence".
He then became president shortly after and the rest is history.
Unfortunately, South Africa successor presidents have not been the same quality, Jacob Zuma aka "Shower Head", for example. Sure, things aren't good in South Africa at the moment but N.M was the catalyst of a good change.
Sure ANC was labelled a Terrorist organization.
The world is not black and white. Something a lot of people seem to forget.
Apartheid was and is a truly an horrendous system, thankfully no longer practiced in South Africa.
Nelson Mandela, upon release, could have taken up arms in complete and utter bitterness for being jailed for 27 years, but told his supporters "No violence".
He then became president shortly after and the rest is history.
Unfortunately, South Africa successor presidents have not been the same quality, Jacob Zuma aka "Shower Head", for example. Sure, things aren't good in South Africa at the moment but N.M was the catalyst of a good change.
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He was a complicated man, but the vapid media makes him seem like a friendly old Santa Claus who just came out of nowhere always doing good.
I think people know about his violent communist ANC background if they care to research it. But did you know he was tribal royalty and that's why he was thrust into politics and revolt in the first place?
Anyway, the bottom line to me is despite his past, when he did come to power he did not exact revenge, he did not wreck the country's economy getting even with his oppressors, instead of going communist embraced democracy, and he limited himself to one term instead of establishing himself as a king. For this he is extraordinary.
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Do we need to start an Apple tribute death pool? Do you suppose they prepare these for rollout in advance?
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RIP Nelson Mandela.
People should remember him for the great that he did in this world. People can always pick out bad things about people and highlight these as the reasons why their life should not be celebrated. He brought freedom to people who had never before seen it.
As he said himself, "I am not a saint, unless you think of a saint as a sinner who keeps on trying"
People should remember him for the great that he did in this world. People can always pick out bad things about people and highlight these as the reasons why their life should not be celebrated. He brought freedom to people who had never before seen it.
As he said himself, "I am not a saint, unless you think of a saint as a sinner who keeps on trying"
*********. Terrorists target soft targets -- civilians and in particular women and children. They do not confront their enemies head-on.
Now where does skin color come into the picture?
Remember Scarface? No women and children?
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Well, Religion and 'think different' are pretty much polar opposites. Religion is a corrupt institution in constant need of money. In return for their money, religious followers get a list of things they shouldn't do. To each his own.
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You mean for example the following graph?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:L...e_Southern_African_countries_1958_to_2003.png
I think it's important to always question media propaganda. Clearly Mandela was right about wanting everyone to be treated equally, but he was wrong about being prepared to use violence to achieve that goal.
There has been far too much focus on the celebrity image of this man (someone said he was the greatest man who ever lived) ...and not enough focus on the important issues of racism and equal rights that surrounded him.
There has been far too much focus on the celebrity image of this man (someone said he was the greatest man who ever lived) ...and not enough focus on the important issues of racism and equal rights that surrounded him.
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Sounds like an argument that could be directly applied to the Gaza strip and West bank. One persons terrorist is the other persons freedom fighter, and vice versa.
re: he was no mlk
for all his struggles he was a man who supported castro, arafat and called their struggles worthy of his partnership. He never was critical when his own apartheid
struggle engaged willfully blew up women and children ( he designated such an attack to accomplish just this himself) and when S Africa became what it is today: the murder capital of the world, where white farmers are slaughtered and there is no mention by the 'black government' he turned his back on any criticism. He never called into question any of the slaughter of whites in zimbabwe and the utter thugocracy and slaughterer of enemies as well as whites of Robert Mugabe.
He was no MLK and this flagellation adulation given to him is undeserved.
He was a supporter of marxism and a member, he was a supporter of muslim
aparteid as it exists worldwide, and marxist dominion without ever criticizing any of the slaughtering, any of the tyranny or the failures of those governments, even after he came to power in South Africa. He was a much smaller man than all this flagellation praise of him admits: yes apartheid was wrong, and yes two wrongs don't make it right and he never stood up and called for the end to the racist
thugocracy of his own party now, the destruction of minorities in his land now and the media is utterly deficient in examining the factual realities.
for all his struggles he was a man who supported castro, arafat and called their struggles worthy of his partnership. He never was critical when his own apartheid
struggle engaged willfully blew up women and children ( he designated such an attack to accomplish just this himself) and when S Africa became what it is today: the murder capital of the world, where white farmers are slaughtered and there is no mention by the 'black government' he turned his back on any criticism. He never called into question any of the slaughter of whites in zimbabwe and the utter thugocracy and slaughterer of enemies as well as whites of Robert Mugabe.
He was no MLK and this flagellation adulation given to him is undeserved.
He was a supporter of marxism and a member, he was a supporter of muslim
aparteid as it exists worldwide, and marxist dominion without ever criticizing any of the slaughtering, any of the tyranny or the failures of those governments, even after he came to power in South Africa. He was a much smaller man than all this flagellation praise of him admits: yes apartheid was wrong, and yes two wrongs don't make it right and he never stood up and called for the end to the racist
thugocracy of his own party now, the destruction of minorities in his land now and the media is utterly deficient in examining the factual realities.
Great example of the dangers of anointing someone a "hero" when you don't know much about them.
Nonsense. I totally understand and appreciate what he fought for. I just don't buy the way he fought for it. Which was terrorism.
But what hacks me off especially, is that in more recent years, and even more so now that he is dead, is that the press don't mention his prior terror campaigns that killed many innocent people. And instead portray him as a saint.
I don't know if that tells you more about the press, or the mugs who buy the crap they write.
The BBC did. Even on their music stations. The guy is still one of the 20th centuries most respected leaders. I think it is pretty sad that some Americans can't see that. Seems like racism is still too much a part of US culture
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