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It is so obvious the videos were doctored. Why didnt Steve himself lay out these handsets on the table at the press conference and do a live demo?

Because signal strength is very location dependent (plus a host of other factors including the weather, passing trucks, etc.)

I often get very different signal strengths from one side of a building to the other, and it varies from day to day.

And do you think all the other similar independent user videos on youtube are doctored as well? Why would Apple doctor a video if joe-blackberry owner didn't need to?
 
Er, no. All the items are matters of opinion (and all but one a matter of artistic judgement). Anybody who fail's to see that is a retard.

You go and judge a opinion which by the way doesn't say anything directly (hence words used "...just because blah blah blah doesn't make it blah blah." ) as silly yet it stated nothing else but a simple truth. A fact that gold doesn't always shine. It can but it's not a given thing. Get it?

And er, yes you are a retard if you decide to reply to a post that you don't even understand.

Whereas:


Is the rambling of a knucklehead with zero grasp of evidence.

Oh... so when apple gives away free physical bumper covers instead of using a software patch that is not evidence enough for you. They need a extra rubber part to make the phone work as intended and to you everything with the phone is fine.
Man. Congratz. You are a true apple fanboy.
 
If it's broke-just fix it. don't bother throwing everyone else under the bus. It serves no purpose. This is why we buy from apple we are looking for better not for the same. Apple did the right thing
 
Man. Congratz. You are a true apple fanboy.

Congratulations on finding your level. Now, get back under your bridge. But before you do look up the fallacy of equivocation, then you might start to understand the discussion. Maybe.
 
Congratz. You are a true apple fanboy.

So why can one end up in timeout for using the word "troll" (it's happened to me), but the equally inflammatory "fanboy" insult is perfectly fine around here?

:confused:
 
So why can one end up in timeout for using the word "troll" (it's happened to me), but the equally inflammatory "fanboy" insult is perfectly fine around here?

:confused:

If you don't criticise Apple in every news article, saying how much the company sucks, then you don't have a "balanced" opinion. :rolleyes: ;)
 
Congratulations on finding your level. Now, get back under your bridge. But before you do look up the fallacy of equivocation, then you might start to understand the discussion. Maybe.

lol. I just prove how shallow you think and you keep going. No wonder Jobs gives statements like "You are holding it wrong" and it sells 3MIL units... haha

I love this forums. They defy logic.
 
So why can one end up in timeout for using the word "troll" (it's happened to me), but the equally inflammatory "fanboy" insult is perfectly fine around here?

:confused:

A troll pretty much posts just to post. Waste of space and time.
Word fanboy isn't actually a insult. It's just a definition of a individual with unreasonably high, and sometimes completely blind "love" towards (in this case) apple product.
 
If it's broke-just fix it. don't bother throwing everyone else under the bus. It serves no purpose. This is why we buy from apple we are looking for better not for the same. Apple did the right thing

This is sort of a theme among the negative comments here. Even though Apple and independents proved conclusively that antennagate was total Gizmodo garbage, basically, lies, the negatives here still seem to insist there was a design flaw.

The only design flaw is in the brains and eyes of people that are looking for reasons to hate on Apple. Antennagate was really reaching. Other phones performance is absolutely germane. It's ridiculous that other manufacturers would complain after dogging Apple in ads and in the press. Apple exposed them. There is nothing special about iPhone 4's attenuation issues... they are universal to all cell phones, and it makes sense to use other phones to show this.

I totally disagree with Apple's decision to give away bumpers. They should have stuck to their guns.
 
The videos were doctored. E.g., n97 mini was in energy saving mode in which the antenna software behaves differently than under normal operation. Droid X was apparently not in 3G network in the first place.

The Droid X does not show 3G when making a call.
 
what is the difference between what Apple did with those spots and what is done by those pc bench mark gurus? Nothing! Hell, look at the car crash test. Damn! If that ain't putting your s*** out there, and we are talking about a vehicle and not a cell phone, than I don't know what is.
Viva Apple. I love my iphone 4 and there is no celly maker out there that can touch it.
Next on my tech to acquire agenda:ipad 64 gig with wifi+3G. Then the 21.5 inch imac. Hot damn!!!!!!

You must have a pretty decent job ;-) Gotta love the iPhone! The PC bench mark was a little different, wasn't it?
 
A troll pretty much posts just to post. Waste of space and time.
Word fanboy isn't actually a insult. It's just a definition of a individual with unreasonably high, and sometimes completely blind "love" towards (in this case) apple product.
If (person_a_yells_troll || person_a_yells_fanboy) { person_a = troll; }

Just ignore them. That's how I see it :D
 
If (person_a_yells_troll || person_a_yells_fanboy) { person_a = troll; }

Just ignore them. That's how I see it :D

Explain further please because it doesn't make much sense...

Going your way of seeing things:
If (person_a_tells crap || person_b_goes_against_it) { person_a_&_b = troll; }

or

If (person_a_yells_BMW || person_a_yells_MERCEDES) { person_a = troll_cause_I_like_AUDI; }

Why are you posting on forums then? If we go further with what you wrote, your simple response is nothing else but trolling because If (person_a_states_anything_that_I_don't_approve || person_a_has_different_point_of_view) { person_a = troll; }

And you're not really ignoring anybody by the way, because you replied to this topic... You just can't pull a argument clear enough to counter it, and going with your standard again you are just trolling about trolling.

So a conclusion to your simple theory is that you should just ignore yourself or else you become a hypocrite.
 
The phones in the videos from Apple are held in an awkward and unnatural way. The iphone 4 can be held like you would be making a call and the signal drops. I tested this on my 3g, my friend's droid, and my wife's iphone 4. I love Apple products and love the iphone 4, but let's be real about this and quit trying to make excuses.
 
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