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More silliness. I have repeated absolutely zero Trump talking points. In fact, you align with him on at least one issue: censorship. He likes that kind of stuff too.

That you or your president don't understand what censorship is doesn't surprise me in the least.
 
It's a subtle request that you stop pretending you don't like Donald Trump being our president. You're in a thread defending Alex Jones. Seriously, you're not fooling anyone. lol

Absolutely silly. Criticizing Apple’s censorship actions is not a defense of the content of Alex Jones’s speech. Details matter, try to keep up.
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That you or your president don't understand what censorship is doesn't surprise me in the least.

More obtuseness. Grab a dictionary and look it up. This isn’t difficult.
 
I basically listed the platform that the current Democratic Party is running on. No right wing trope. I have equal disdain for the republican party (i.e. Bush was a train wreck and caused us to have 8 years of Obama). But conservative view points are the ones being censored across the board (excluding Alex Jones - I know very few people who actually take the guy serious).

They're not being censored even a little. Can you name some prominent conservatives that have been censored over their beliefs?
 
No different than your unsubstantiated repetition that the right is somehow worse.
Good deflection. You made the claim. You should be able to provide a source per forum rules.


There has been tons of evidence that a massive right wing misinformation campaign influenced the 2016 election. Purges of Twitter bots spreading disinformation disproportionately affected conservatives. The president and his supporters have conducted misinformation campaigns to de-legitimize independent investigations by the news media and the special counsel.

And most importantly, Republicans have allowed misinformation to become a significant part of their platform in the form of climate change denial.
 
Abolishment of ICE, political correctness somehow a good thing, strength through appeasement, taxing to prosperity, welfare given with little prerequisite and without random drug tests and forced community service, allowance of the false "white guilt" narrative, affirmative action, sanctuary cities. Shall I go on?

I mean I can't really address all your points since there's so many, and I don't think you would care to explain them all further if I asked you to, but the one I'm most interested in is that you think political correctness is just by its very existence a bad thing. Why is that?
 
Good deflection. You made the claim. You should be able to provide a source per forum rules.

Just as you are making claims with no sources.


There has been tons of evidence that a massive right wing misinformation campaign influenced the 2016 election. Purges of Twitter bots spreading disinformation disproportionately affected conservatives. The president and his supporters have conducted misinformation campaigns to de-legitimize independent investigations by the news media and the special counsel.

And most importantly, Republicans have allowed misinformation to become a significant part of their platform in the form of climate change denial.

This is silly. The left plays the same ugly games. Litigating that here will be a waste of time because nobody is going to change their minds.
 
This took me 5 seconds to find:





Analytics shows that InfoWars.com has 16.96 million visits in the last six months. CNN.com has 516.96 million visits in the same time period.

Alex Jones' show has 5.9 million weekly listeners below contemporaries like Mark Savage and Rush Limbaugh, and far below NPR's All Things Considered at 14.6 million.
Congratulations, you found a video that doesn't say anywhere at all that "no kids died". I believe that kids died, however, there are many questionable events that supposedly happened. This is only being attempted as a precedent. If they can censor a "crazy person" regardless of his opinions and views, then they can and will sensor the everyday-American next.
 
Just as you are making claims with no sources.
Another deflection. I'd be happy to provide a source if you ask for one.

This is silly. The left plays the same ugly games. Litigating that here will be a waste of time because nobody is going to change their minds.
Another example of false equivalence.
 
I didn’t read the whole thread, so I’m sorry if this has been covered already:

What’s stopping the Alex Jones worshippers from creating a trillion dollar company of their own, running a wildly successful content distribution service to carry his ********? Except for their conservative resistance against innovation I mean?
 
I live in Washington, DC. Believe it or not, people keep their political leanings to themselves - it's the tourists who make the noise. And I see enough of it, and I think it's just as stupid on the left as on the right. Only, I have to take a side these days and it's not the one that has the same social values that I do...not that this administration is fiscally conservative by any definition. It's all out of whack, values wise. I'm as sick of social justice warrior nonsense as the next guy...but you know when you're doing something just to be a dick, and these guys think there's some end game solution to being dicks to the left all the time. There's not, other than potentially waking up some liberals to the fact that they should tolerate a bit more.
See, when I read that term “Social justice warrior” all I think Is this person is deep in the right wing propaganda. What’s wrong with fighting for social justice?
 
Another deflection. I'd be happy to provide a source if you ask for one.

A tit-for-tat on this will not move the needle. This is already off topic.

Another example of false equivalence.

Wrong. It’s not false just because you say so.
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As I said previously, I totally understand why this is so frustrating for you.

It is clear that you understand very little.
 
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Candace Owens, Lauren Southern, pro-Trump groups, Christopher Cantwell, Chicks-on-the-Right. This is particularly a problem on Twitter where their advisors (whatever the heck they do) are admittedly liberal by 12:1.
 
I’d argue CNN and Fox News in a way are in the same boat. Both claim to be independent, fair and balanced news. Of course, both are for the most part biased in their reporting.

At least MSNBC is upfront with admitting they are a biased news source (in this case progressive). CNN isn’t ideologically much different, they just pretend to be unbiased.

CNN also led the campaign to purge Infowars from tech platforms. It was a coordinated politically motivated attack and they have been at this for months.

They just successfully censored and banned one of their major competitors. Infowars had over 2 million subscribers on YouTube alone. CNN only gained traction on YouTube after YouTube changed their algorithms to favor MSM sites.

From twitter:

"The same leftists who spent the last 2 weeks defending Sarah Jeong & James Gunn for their offensive online speech are now celebrating Infowars being banned for offensive speech. "It's OK when we do it.""
 
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God save us from this particular online trope.

"I didn't vote for Trump, but let me repeat every single Trumpian talking point possible, that I absolutely came to believe through research, logic, and pulling my thinking by its bootstraps."
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You're lacking a bit in History, then, if you consider this book burning.
Book burning, memory holing, whatever you want to call it.

And I’m not an Alex Jones guy. I just find it astounding Apole would allow this content of years and years (and even on its “internet radio” in iTunes) and then memory hole it under pressure.

If you’re cheering for this but still can’t understand why even a neutral observer would find this troubling, you are absolutely a modern day book burner. Just own it
 
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True. But this is more like opening a huge stadium with thousands of stages with people speaking to whoever wanders in to listen and then throwing out a particular speaker because you don’t like what he has to say.

It’s still your right but this is perhaps a more accurate analogy than your house.
I’m just wondering why they don’t send Alex Jones out for rehab and re-education? Why ban him?
 
See, when I read that term “Social justice warrior” all I think Is this person is deep in the right wing propaganda. What’s wrong with fighting for social justice?
Nothing and stop being so sensitive. He has been siding with your arguments the whole time and you accuse him of being deep in to right wing propaganda. Pray tell us how there is no left wing propaganda stirring the pot... I can't conceive of people actually under the delusion that the left is not also complicit for being responsible for the state America is in. May as well be of the flat-earther mindset with your head in the sand.
 
I didn’t read the whole thread, so I’m sorry if this has been covered already:

What’s stopping the Alex Jones worshippers from creating a trillion dollar company of their own, running a wildly successful content distribution service to carry his ********? Except for their conservative resistance against innovation I mean?

"I am going to ban black people from my hospital. What's stopping them from opening their own?"

Solid logic.
 
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I mean I can't really address all your points since there's so many, and I don't think you would care to explain them all further if I asked you to, but the one I'm most interested in is that you think political correctness is just by its very existence a bad thing. Why is that?
What good has political correctness brought us? We live in a world where everyone lives in fear of offending everyone. PC is as destructive as affirmative action, which I witness in the application process to medical school. It's wrong.
 
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