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Group FaceTime is a useful tool where there are no alternatives. Given what Skype for Business can already do, FaceTime isn't a serious tool for business users.

So you admit that group FaceTime would be a useful tool, but just not a serious tool. I’m not following your logic here for something to be useful, why does it need to be ‘serious.’

Anyways, But in the respect of iOS, look how many iPads are used by corporations and businesses, or the Mac, where this would be more than useful in so many scenarios. Skype is an alternative, but why not have something proprietary with an Apple related device where a third party application doesn’t have to the ‘Alternative’ anymore . I think that’s equally as important in this situation The potential of group FaceTime.

Certainly, there are niche users in a business setting where no screen sharing, file sharing, or event recording is needed. But even in a brainstorming session, who's taking notes for everyone to see? Every meeting room designed in past century has a chalkboard, whiteboard, or an easel pad so that ideas can be recorded and not just heard.

You Keep reverting back to a whiteboard or chalkboard, not that that’s not useful, but that also doesn’t apply to every situation either. I think group FaceTime isn’t meant to be used specifically in one way, it can be diverse in the sense that they could be 15, 20, 25 people expressing their ideas with somebody that does take notes or record the data. I think you think you see this as being static, when group FaceTime could be very dynamic for companies for something more diverse or just a simple as open discussion.

Also, you keep posting all these scenarios where group FaceTime would not be useful by refuting my post, perhaps maybe we should allow group FaceTime to actually Debut when it does and then allow those to actually provide examples of how it did benefit them it’s situations where you’re saying it would not.

@Heineken mentioned conference calls of 30 people. But does that mean Group FaceTime is a good tool for the company?

The OP answers this and confirmed in fact, it would be.
 
I wish they would just not announce new features/products way before they are even ready for release.....
 
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Details. I knew the faces and voices and attitudes to the death.

In your case, Skype for Business would be a much better tool. It allows for up to 250 participants and enables screen sharing, file sharing, white boarding, polls, etc.

Group FaceTime offers virtually no advantage in your situation as it has none of those features.
 
A trillion dollar company that has endless resources and charges an insane premium over their counterparts can't do the simplest things. Embarrassing. The "take your time Apple, iron out the bugs" crowd are the most intense of the kool-aid drinkers.
 
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I wish they would just not announce new features/products way before they are even ready for release.....
Sometimes, especially in Software Development, you may THINK you are at the 95% "there" point, and then "real-world" testing shows that you have some fundamental design challenges yet to address...
 
So you admit that group FaceTime would be a useful tool, but just not a serious tool. I’m not following your logic here for something to be useful, why does it need to be ‘serious.’

Anyways, But in the respect of iOS, look how many iPads are used by corporations and businesses, or the Mac, where this would be more than useful in so many scenarios. Skype is an alternative, but why not have something proprietary with an Apple related device where a third party application doesn’t have to the ‘Alternative’ anymore . I think that’s equally as important in this situation The potential of group FaceTime.



You Keep reverting back to a whiteboard or chalkboard, not that that’s not useful, but that also doesn’t apply to every situation either. I think group FaceTime isn’t meant to be used specifically in one way, it can be diverse in the sense that they could be 15, 20, 25 people expressing their ideas with somebody that does take notes or record the data. I think you think you see this as being static, when group FaceTime could be very dynamic for companies for something more diverse or just a simple as open discussion.

Also, you keep posting all these scenarios where group FaceTime would not be useful by refuting my post, perhaps maybe we should allow group FaceTime to actually Debut when it does and then allow those to actually provide examples of how it did benefit them it’s situations where you’re saying it would not.



The OP answers this and confirmed in fact, it would be.

The example @Heineken provided suggested seeing the engineering details would be useful.
 
Came to the thread just to read the comments from the raft of “elite enterprise software developers” claiming it can’t be that hard for Apple to implement this feature.

Wasn’t disappointed and didn’t have to wait long.

Mine was actually a serious question. Seems your comment was a little “elite”no?
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Are you kidding?

No this is a serious question, not sure why so shocked really.
 
In your case, Skype for Business would be a much better tool. It allows for up to 250 participants and enables screen sharing, file sharing, white boarding, polls, etc.

Group FaceTime offers virtually no advantage in your situation as it has none of those features.
Advantage is that it’s built in and company is issuing everyone iPhones now too. No extra costs and 3rd party apps is an advantage in my opinion.
 
The example @Heineken provided suggested seeing the engineering details would be useful.

Right, but my reference was to post # 146 where the OP stated that they would find this useful in those situations. You’re referring to a different post. Either way, that was my point.

And evidently, another post confirming above what I reiterated multiple times above this post as well.
 
Oh great, I guess we'll see this next May like we did with AirPlay 2.

You know Apple, you really don't have to make it work with 32 people at launch. You could start with 4 which is the max that 95% of people will probably use. 32 is insanity.

And that is relevant to the delay how?
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"You can FaceTime up to 32 people."

"Why would I ever want to do that?"

Fortunately for the entire customer base, Apple doesn't factor in the needs of just one or a few people.
 
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Advantage is that it’s built in and company is issuing everyone iPhones now too. No extra costs and 3rd party apps is an advantage in my opinion.
In my personal experience, "Skype For Business" f/k/a Microsoft Lync, can't even handle a TWO person screen-share chat with any sort of reliability, let alone the scenarios you have set forth.
 
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No biggie, Apple. Iron out all the bugs

Well since its a feature I'll probably rarely if ever use I guess it's not a biggie. Then again might be nice with the family once and while since I've 3000k from them.

But overall late software and feature update releases are starting to become an issue with Apple. Air play 2, imessage cloud sync and ios 12 delaying GUI change to ios 13 (we hope) and now this?

Fortunately I can live without this stuff but they are already playing catch up to Android on many of these features which is not good.

The saddest thing is unless iMessage gets a webapp on icloud that I can use from any computer and an Android app I'm pretty much stuck with using a 3rd party messaging app.
 
Sure, except, "What are you people actually DOING over there?" With Apple getting so far behind on updating the line of Macs (and then stumbling on the new models they DO release, with major issues having to be addressed after release), and with smartphone advances slowing down considerably across the board (new Galaxy Note 9, for example, with only incremental changes) -- I just don't get why they're having to put a hold on these new features in iOS too?


No biggie, Apple. Iron out all the bugs
 
Seriously outrageous...as many others have said, just like AirPlay 2, iMessage in iCloud (which still doesn’t really work right), wireless fast charging, HomePod, AirPower...
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Is this really that difficult of a feature for Apple to incorporate?

It’s worked fine on the betas so far so idk what the issue is
 
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