Apple Removes Parler From App Store Due to 'Inadequate' Measures to Address Dangerous Content

[mcdawg]

Do you understand the difference between a protest and a riot?

Yes. A “protest” would be 250,000 peaceable people who are led by a leader who explicitly requests peace, with a few protestors let into the people’s capitol by compliant police and urged by Leftist conspirators, with the vast majority of these Americans inside the capitol not only resisting an urge to damage property, but in fact reverently staying behind velvet ropes and taking photos with their phones. And then one unarmed protestor was murdered by being blindly shot in the neck through a door.

“Rioting” would look like the 8 months of coordinated, subsidized violence in dozens of cities across the nation, directly causing over 50 deaths and over $2 billion in damage, and countless shuttered businesses and utterly destroyed neighborhoods.

Do you understand the difference? Yes, I’m sure you understand the difference fully as well as I do, but you’re determined to lie about it.

How does baldly lying for the sake of encouraging totalitarian power sit with you?

Fine?

Yeah, that’s the problem.

 

[masterhiggins]

Love love love love love it!!!

I can’t wait until the cancel culture comes for you.

 

[Rafterman]

Yes. A “protest” would be 250,000 peaceable people who are led by a leader who explicitly requests peace, with a few protestors let into the people’s capitol by compliant police and urged by Leftist conspirators, with the vast majority of these Americans inside the capitol not only resisting an urge to damage property, but in fact reverently staying behind velvet ropes and taking photos with their phones. And then one unarmed protestor was murdered by being blindly shot in the neck through a door.

Wow.

How about this: Right wing media has convinced millions of Americans that they are victims - that conservatives are some sort of vast majority that is being oppressed by liberals and mainstream media and explain their own side's shortcomings with conspiracy theories and paranoia.

 

[diamornte]

God bless Apple for doing this. Apple is always on the right side of History, especially now.

 

[Solomani]

Any chances of Parler crying soooo soooo hard that their lawsuit "You Violate Mah Free Speeeech!" makes it all the way to the Supreme Court?

Tho my guess is that SCOTUS will laugh at the attempt and throw the case out, period.

 

[MadDawg2020]

Well I was JUST able to download it for the first time, so they didn’t do a very good job 😂

doesnt matTed Amazon is blocking Parlor from its servers so the app will be useless.

 

[Haust]

This is illegal. Apple operates on the public airways. They cannot legally discriminate against general political speech. Parler is an open social media platform. Terms of service do not trump the Constitution. Now, if only we had a fair and just legal system. So pissed about this! Everyone should be! One day it will be you.

 

[masterhiggins]

Let's compare it too bakers and their refusal to bake wedding cakes for a gay couple.

Imagine being denied something you worked hard for, fought against your own family to get in place, earned a freedom you didn't have before. Only to see it ruined by some self-righteous religious nutcase who can't get beyond discriminating against you. Yet that's what some of you want to be the rule: the private company can chose who they service based on what their and their owner's ideas are, even if that's outright discrimination.

And then those very same supporters of the above nonsense claim Apple, Twitter, Facebook, AWS, ... are violating rights they and/or their great orange baboon have because they choose whom they service. While the reasons for acting are silencing calls for outright violence, violence that actually occurred - not just speech, acts -, where people died. Where those very same idiots keep on trying to cause even more mayhem, even more violence.

Yet you feel some baker's religious feelings are more important.

I'm sorry but such things show who you are as a person.

Actually. This would be like the baker calling other bakers and pressuring them to not bake a cake for their wedding, either m, and then calling the church or venue and pressuring them to not host the event. And pressuring caterers not to serve there.

 

[jonblatho]

The bar should be extremely high for censorship. As in, so high that it's nearly impossible to reach it.

How about a post from a lawyer who litigated election claims on Trump’s behalf that physically threatened the vice president — "Get the firing squads ready. Pence goes FIRST." — and was left up for a few days before Parler finally decided to remove it?

 

[5H3PH3RD]

This is illegal. Apple operates on the public airways. They cannot legally discriminate against general political speech. Parler is an open social media platform. Terms of service do not trump the Constitution. Now, if only we had a fair and just legal system. So pissed about this! Everyone should be! One day it will be you.

1. It's not illegal 2. It does not violate the Constitution. 3, You do have a fair and just legal system. Just because someone tells you something you don't like, doesn't make it unfair or not just.

 

[Rafterman]

"You'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength."

-- Trump, in a speech to a crowd that, an hour later, stormed thre Capitol.

 

[jonblatho]

This is illegal. Apple operates on the public airways. They cannot legally discriminate against general political speech. Parler is an open social media platform. Terms of service do not trump the Constitution. Now, if only we had a fair and just legal system. So pissed about this! Everyone should be! One day it will be you.

This is one of the worst legal takes among many bad ones in this thread. Hysterical.

 

[CaryMacGuy]

This is illegal. Apple operates on the public airways. They cannot legally discriminate against general political speech. Parler is an open social media platform. Terms of service do not trump the Constitution. Now, if only we had a fair and just legal system. So pissed about this! Everyone should be! One day it will be you.

Nothing stops a user from opening Safari and typing “parler.com”. Ever since the App Store launched 12 1/2 years ago, Apple has banned porn apps. One could make the same “free speech” argument about those. The fact is Apple is not a government entity. The 1st amendment restricts the government. Apple has chosen not to sell a particular product in their store. That is their right as a retailer. Whatever happened the conservative idea limiting regulation for private enterprises?

 

[IG88]

How about a post from a lawyer who litigated election claims on Trump’s behalf that physically threatened the vice president — "Get the firing squads ready. Pence goes FIRST." — and was left up for a few days before Parler finally decided to remove it?

Something like that is where it begins.

Then the censors eventually accuse the Beastie Boys of calling for children to murder their parents in the name of partying.

The problem is, there is no person or entity that can be given that kind of power and will use it responsibly.

Apple can immediately solve this problem by opening up iOS to 3rd party app stores. Then there's no monopoly on iOS apps & they can ban the **** out of anything and everything they want.

 

[marine0816]

This is crap. Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter worst than all the communist governments combined

 

[XNorth]

1997 Apple: Think different

2021 Apple: Think like us or else

It's always been think like us for any company. Think different was a marketing slogan. (Yes I know the OP is a joke)

 

[Rafterman]

Something like that is where it begins.

Then the censors eventually accuse the Beastie Boys of calling for children to murder their parents in the name of partying.

The problem is, there is no person or entity that can be given that kind of power and will use it responsibly.

Apple can immediately solve this problem by opening up iOS to 3rd party app stores. Then there's no monopoly on iOS apps & they can ban the **** out of anything and everything they want.

"I hope no bad people show up."

-- The Beastie Boys

 

[spook]

Not if it’s banned.

Back up your current device to computer. The app will be loaded into iTunes, just drop it back in

 

[Sanlitun]

Wow.

How about this: Right wing media has convinced millions of Americans that they are victims - that conservatives are some sort of vast majority that is being oppressed by liberals and mainstream media and explain their own side's shortcomings with conspiracy theories and paranoia.

The Trump phenomenon is not a political one but rather an economic one. And in that regard many are victims. I feel that what Michael Moore said about Trump long ago is enlightening in regards to who supports him.

 

[IG88]

Apple has chosen not to sell a particular product in their store. That is their right as a retailer. Whatever happened the conservative idea limiting regulation for private enterprises?

Apple shouldn't have that right as long as they are self inflicting their App Store on all iOS users as the only reasonable way to install apps.

Open it up and then ban whatever you like.

 

[DaveFromCampbelltown]

Its still censorship. And its still an attack on free speech. No its not an attack of free speech by the government. But why is your world view so limited as to think that only governments can limit speech?

Part of the problem with having the internet ran by a very small number of companies that they have too much power. Sure you might not like Parler. But if Apply, Amazon, and Google decided that didnt want BLMs on the web they could effectively erase that movement. Is that really the kind of power you want in unelected private companies?

Please tell me what platform Apple runs that hosts anything other than technology-based discussions (i.e. how do I unfreeze my Mac).

Under the US Constitution only the government is limited in its rights to limit free speech. If you come in to my house and insult my wife, I am permitted to limit your free speech. If I go into the Apple HQ and yell "Apple Sucks!", they are entitled to have security remove me.

And again, not stocking a product is not censorship. I have heard there are shops in California that refuse to stock Vegemite. I heartily disagree, but that's their right. I have a matching right to take my business elsewhere.

Another thought. Your local TV station doesn't have to give you air time every time you want to say something. That's limiting your right to free speech, but it is within their rights.

 

[CaryMacGuy]

Apple can immediately solve this problem by opening up iOS to 3rd party app stores. Then there's no monopoly on iOS apps & they can ban the **** out of anything and everything they want.

The problem with that is apps that compromise privacy or device security could not be controlled. Apple’s tight control over apps (limiting APIs being used, etc) is what makes the iPhone work so well. Take that away and you start to have the same problems that exist on Android.

 

[Rafterman]

Back up your current device to computer. The app will be loaded into iTunes, just drop it back in

Apps do not get backed up to iTunes anymore. They are tagged in the backup and restored directly from the app store.

 

[5H3PH3RD]

Apple shouldn't have that right as long as they are self inflicting their App Store on all iOS users as the only reasonable way to install apps.

Open it up and then ban whatever you like.

I see you have some awesome logic.....

Open it up and ban what you like vs ban what you like when it violates your TOS = the exact same thing just the other way around.

EDIT: Its not even the other way around, its just the exact same thing!

 

[XNorth]

am also extremely disappointed in how many Americans have been brainwashed by partisan politics into happily giving away their rights.

Well, if you support Trump taking over as a dictator, why would you care about rights? There are no rights under a dictatorship.