Hate to hear you've been going thru a rough time OP... but my mid-2009 13' MBP is still rocking along flawlessly & I'm running High Sierra on it. Great great little machine even at 9 year old!
It's a shame some stores appear to be like that. I have always had good experiences with the stores near me to date, with only a couple of exceptions. Even in those cases, you receive those emails asking how your experience was and if I make a negative comment about a particular visit, I always get a call from the manager as a follow up. Overall though, very good experiences with the 2 stores near me. It seems to not be the case with all of them however.
This may not be the answer you are hoping for, but maybe try installing the Mojave beta to see if you still have the screen issue. High Sierra has had a lot of video bugs, even on the most recent 10.13.6. I have issues with static on my 2017 MBP on wake, that goes away. It took three computers for engineering to acknowledge that this was a software issue, not hardware.
When I tested out Mojave, the issue is gone. Not saying it will fix you situation, but it's worth a shot. The Apple Bar Geniuses mostly look for whatever the diagnosis tools tell them, and that tool won't tell you there is a software bug. You might give it a shot. High Sierra has been one of the buggiest OS I have used on a Mac personally.
With the repeated failures you're having you'd think you'd be entitled to a replacement instead of having to get it constantly repaired.
Do you not have a consumer law with protections around repair vs replacement where you live?
Yeah, I believe (and this is just speculation on my part) that Apple released the eGPU functionality a little too early still without completely vetting out the video bugs that came with accommodating for eGPUs. There is a very good chance some of the video drivers and GPU settings that worked fine before they added this functionality, and now they have partially broken code.Interesting. They are coming up with no red flags on the diagnosis, but the issue is easily reproduced. He saw some poor quality playback on a download iTunes TV show and immediately said "new logic board"
My prior interest as a PC enthusiast had me wondering about codecs and other software issues, but those ideas bounced off the Genius.
So I am to think they could be doing all of this for nothing and when Mojave comes out the video issue will be resolved?
Not sure whether to be relieved or more frustrated that their technicians don't have better information.
I do not run beta on my daily machine, so I will have to wait.
kjvm
This is what's disconcerting to me.I don’t remember APPLE/MACs having so many isssues soon after release.
This is what's disconcerting to me.
I remember having issues with a ALU 15" powerbook but the 2018 model seems to have a slew of complaints. Let me say that I don't have any of these issues, but seeing many people deal with them is alarming.
1. coil whine.
2. speaker crackle
3. T2 Kernel panics.
4. Light leaking on the display
5. thermal throttling.
Just curious, when you had the screen issues, was it like a static screen on boot from sleep? If so I started a whole thread on this where a lot of people are having a similar issue, although with no kernel panics.I am waiting on a replacement, I was having issues with the kernel panic, but it wasn't enough of a deal breaker for me, then I started having issues with the display where it would act like the old old CRTs where it appeared like it had to warm up before the screen would function appropriately. It was weird, but it kept getting worse so I opted for a replacement, if the replacement doesn't work flawlessly I will just return it and probably opt for a laptop that is highly portable and works well with linux and build a beastly desktop I can offload all my heavy work on to.
Just curious, when you had the screen issues, was it like a static screen on boot from sleep? If so I started a whole thread on this where a lot of people are having a similar issue, although with no kernel panics.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...nitor-static-after-waking-from-sleep.2113498/
This is what's disconcerting to me.
I remember having issues with a ALU 15" powerbook but the 2018 model seems to have a slew of complaints. Let me say that I don't have any of these issues, but seeing many people deal with them is alarming.
1. coil whine.
2. speaker crackle
3. T2 Kernel panics.
4. Light leaking on the display
5. thermal throttling.
That's likely what I would do if forced off my 2015 15" for some reason.
Probably going to start with an X1 Carbon and see where Apple is in a few years....
So it seems, if I had not been so quick to order the 2018 model and instead waited a bit longer, the odds are rather high I would have not purchased it. As it stands, I was unaware of the T2 issue, coil whine and speaker crackling at the time of purchase. I think the latter issues are a minority and many of us don't have those problems but that doesn't marginalize those poor souls dealing with the problem.Concerning enough to make me hold off, just becoming a lottery if you get a good one or a lemon.
So it seems, if I had not been so quick to order the 2018 model and instead waited a bit longer, the odds are rather high I would have not purchased it. As it stands, I was unaware of the T2 issue, coil whine and speaker crackling at the time of purchase. I think the latter issues are a minority and many of us don't have those problems but that doesn't marginalize those poor souls dealing with the problem.
I'm about a month in on my ownership and its been a solid laptop, I'm very happy that I chose this over the Razer. The Razer's short comings are resolved in this laptop and so it checks off all of my must haves and wants.
This is too funny!
I actually ordered a maxed out X1 (8650U/1TB/16GB/HDR Display) and expect it early next week. ($1800 out the door with 3yr +ADC warranty, Office and a $100 Southwest airline voucher all included)
Really wanted a maxed out 13" MBP, but it appears Apple is asleep at the wheel. Its seems they have striped down the OSX team so badly now that its now starting to bleed.
Anyways, we shall see how the X1 goes!
Windows 10 has matured to the point of being tolerable. If this was 2015 with Windows 8, it would have been a nonstarter idea in the first place.
Thinkpads also work very nice running other operating systems.
From my admittedly very short stint with the touchbar MacBook Pro I got the same impression - certainly well built machines, but not tanks like the unibody and retina generations were. Somehow felt more highly strung and like a knock or two that wouldn’t have phased previous machines could cause problems.Exactly, I just don't have the warm fuzzies that I'll get 6 years out of this MBP.
Yeah it used to be a relatively simple pay more for better machine, now it’s pay way more for an arguably better machine. You do get the feeling they are wringing every last penny out of you nowadays, with their attention always half on what it’ll do to their profits and share price over just getting on and making what they want and pricing it suitably to aggressively. The power cable being removed from the box, no more screen cleaning cloths, moving to USB C but not including an adapter for the most ubiquitous connector in the world (still, now) in the box - it’s nickel and diming.Personally, I don't think a corporation that concerns itself at least somewhat social issues is a bad thing — but they are definitely trying to squeeze every last buck out of their loyal customers.
I think they have let themselves be lulled into the security that Aesthetics trumps all else.
That's my assessment, and all the reviews I've seen regarding the 2016, 2017 and 2018, they highlight the build quality.certainly well built machines,
Certainly no debate as far as fit and finish go - they even feel solid to hold, just, I don’t know, less robust somehow?That's my assessment, and all the reviews I've seen regarding the 2016, 2017 and 2018, they highlight the build quality.
While the build quality is higher, I think they feel more delicate.I don’t know, less robust somehow?
Apparently you have issues and judge others that look different than you, in 2018 that's odd to me.i should work at the local apple store fixing these macs for a couple of weeks, but i don't have those tattoos* or sport a long beard that looks like a swarming beehive from the kalahari desert during the honey churning festival,
bzzzzzzz bzzzzzz.
(*one techie had the Polynesian declaration of surfing techniques from the base of their chin to tip of the middle finger)
oh they should giveya rental macbook, works gotta get done!
What's the deal with the power cable being removed from the box? By that i mean what does that actually mean? Surely they include a cable for wall charging it, right?
What's the deal with the power cable being removed from the box? By that i mean what does that actually mean? Surely they include a cable for wall charging it, right?
Hate to hear you've been going thru a rough time OP... but my mid-2009 13' MBP is still rocking along flawlessly & I'm running High Sierra on it. Great great little machine even at 9 year old!