Even the article and experts are saying this segment has not matured yet software and hardware wise and is an unproven market. I imagine 8 years down the line when the technology has matured this could be a hit but definitely not right now. Can’t wait to finally see it at WWDC though!
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Apple Reportedly Axes Mixed-Reality Headset's Exclusive Manufacturing Partner
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I feel like most of the commenters didn't read the article; this seemed obvious to me.
I've lost most faith in Apple's ability to create practical, operable, hands-free devices. Just this morning I asked Siri to resume playing music over my Airpods, and it said I can't do that. Then I went to my phone and manually clicked play. Apple is so far behind in basic voice-controlled apps and minor AI features, that I just can't see a complex new device with an entirely new OS being anything more than a cool trinket for a few years. It's really sad.
Realityck
macrumors G5
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iOS 17: Features, Compatible Devices, and More
Apple's iOS 17 update was released to the public on September 18, 2023.
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George Dawes
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I’d be very pleasantly surprised if it looked like the render , much sleeker than the one I’ve seen so far
That's not happening in 2023 as there's no way to make it somewhat socially acceptable yet.
We'll have a 3K usd useless headset nobody wants, but no new monitor, no Mac Pro, no new iMac / iMac Pro. Apple, when did you send a memo you're becoming a gadget manufacturer? I've missed it I guess.
topmounter
macrumors 68030
You have to wonder... considering the growing negativity surrounding this thing, has Tim cut a deal with Xi to make this the PRC's preferred media consumption device for its citizens?
klasma
macrumors G4
We know that it won’t be AR, but XR. Meaning the display won’t be transparent, and the outside view will instead be captured by cameras and mixed with content on the internal display.
klasma
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snow755
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How do you expect them to get to the $1000 version with high value features if they don't iterate on this through generations?
They can't keep iterating on AR/VR in a lab where only their employees use and test it. Real world testing has to happen at some point, and we just call that the early adopter phase.
klasma
macrumors G4
This says that you will be able to say “Siri” instead of having to say “Hey Siri”. Nothing more, nothing less. The gripes about Siri usually aren’t that you need to say “hey”.See
iOS 17: Features, Compatible Devices, and More
Apple's iOS 17 update was released to the public on September 18, 2023.
He's no doubt being squeezed by China, to take away a Taiwanese company's business, when they have moved out of China....not a good look for Tim & Apple 😏
Europe is a large part of that, where prices have risen substantially, because allegedly of the dollar rate, however Apple should have swallowed that, they didn't and here we are 40% less sales 😏
Mr. Dee
macrumors 603
Its interesting you mentioned this, because Steve Jobs described Apple products as something they would make for themselves that they would want to use, they just happen to sell it to us consumers too.
Schizoid
macrumors 65816
We’ll have to put up with buggy software, Mac delays and pointless phones until they come to their senses!
centauratlas
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thethirdshoe
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Don't worry, there is nothing they don't know about you. You are already naked.
Most of the security cameras and dash cams are Chinese made. Your car's infotainment system is also Chinese made.
The Carbon Monoxide sensor right above your bed is also Made in China.
I was going to say something similar (though perhaps with a bit more snark). The thing about this little tidbit is that is almost certainly underestimates what is actually happening.
The people who work at Apple are competent engineers. At this point, everyone who has even passing knowledge of ChatGPT knows that LLMs are the way to go. We all also see the concerns about privacy when you use the cloud-based version.
Apple has the ability to run an LLM on our phones. They have loads of data they can use to train an LLM. People would throw piles of money at them if they backed Siri by an LLM running locally. They would be grossly negligent if they weren't already working on this.
They aren't idiots and they like money. This is going to happen, sooner rather than later.
Since I don’t normally walk around with computer monitors, this consideration is irrelevant to me.
Taiwanese electronics manufacturer Pegatron, which was believed to be the exclusive partner for assembly of Apple's mixed-reality headset, has been removed from the device's supply chain, DigiTimes reports.....
...The paywalled report explains that Apple requested Pegatron to hand over manufacturing and final assembly operations to Chinese supplier Luxshare. This process apparently finished in March. DigiTimes suggests that the change may be related to Pegatron moving some of its production capacity from China to other regions, which includes selling its factory in Shanghai to Luxshare.
Errr. If factory that Pegatron sold off to Luxshare is the same factory they were going to use to make the AR/VR headset then this isn't much of a hot story. It just means that Apple is following the factory and not the vendor.
This is going from a "made in China" headset to a "made in China" headset. Even more a non-story if goes from made in factory foo with owner Barney to made in same factory foo with owner Fred. The 'exclusivity' cover very well be to the factory and that particular location next to where the parts for the headset are being made.
This headset was never rumored to be some bargin basement priced , "sell them below unit costs" , headset. Not sure why this would be some 'sudden' change for Pegatron on that front.
More production factiliies outside of China is probably a bigger concern than the 'low' volume of Apple's headset. Margins are tighter all around for all of these contract manufacturers and having to ramp up more facilities outside of China doesn't make that easier over the short term.
Apple Car ... chuckle like that was going to ever be relatively high volume product. Made-in-China Apple Car with made-in-china batteries... like that is going to work in the USA. As much as folks grumble about vapor ware AR/VR headset ... Apple Car is worse. Much worse (an even bigger billion dollar boondoggle. ).
thethirdshoe
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