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Apple Reportedly Cutting iPhone 5c Production as Chinese Gray Market Prices Drop
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So when people compared/reviewed the iPhone 5 to other phones it was only the aluminum back that made it stand out?
They make soda cans from aluminum as well. Are they premium products?
I don't like when drinks come in plastic bottles.
The consumer whose phone education showed them that the differences between the iPhone 5s and 5c were not worth it to them (because of their needs: the user I mention often who only checks email, texts, calls people and plays angry birds)
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I prefer glass to aluminum or plastic, but that does not make the beer better. You still have to brew it well.
What are you smoking? I want some of the same...
PS: I maintain that they are out of touch with their customer base for the 5c's pricing:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1649884/
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glass > aluminium > plastic
4 > 5s > 5 > 5c
But cans have a fun factor bottles don't have. Think about it like the additional features of the newer phones.
I agree. Only $100 more for latest spec and premium packaging, when a contract is well over $1000 for two years? No brainer.
Also agree re colour and price of the 5c. Select black and $1-200 cheaper and the phone could start selling in the sim-free / PAYG market.
I am an owner and a big fan of a yellow 5c. That said, it is entirely possible that Apple overestimated 5c demand relative to the 5s.
1) Most customers don't understand that there is more than one iPhone. People have asked me "You have the new iPhone" and don't know the difference between the two.
2) In store, the two iPhones run the same. However, the 5s looks more like a traditional iPhone and doesn't really cost any more money. So many will stick with the familiar model.
3) Many people who are buying 5c are buying it for the color/heft of the phone (which they prefer), or are buying multiple phones for family members. Not many people are buying the phone purely for price. So that means the price is not really low enough to drive sales yet by itself.
1) Most customers don't understand that there is more than one iPhone. People have asked me "You have the new iPhone" and don't know the difference between the two.
2) In store, the two iPhones run the same. However, the 5s looks more like a traditional iPhone and doesn't really cost any more money. So many will stick with the familiar model.
3) Many people who are buying 5c are buying it for the color/heft of the phone (which they prefer), or are buying multiple phones for family members. Not many people are buying the phone purely for price. So that means the price is not really low enough to drive sales yet by itself.
What country is that? In CH, so far they have only timidly discounted the IP5 (80 EUR)...
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One more thing - I think Apple may have honestly expected the 5c to quickly become the best selling iPhone and that the 5s would mainly be for "pro" consumers. If that is the case, they may have misread their own customer base. They made the 5c very compelling spec wise, which may have forced its price to be too high compared to the 5s.
The $100 dollar difference ($150 in some places) argument is just dumb.
Its 100% savings and thats a lot of money to people who work or have to buy for family. If I had a teen I would much rather buy a $100 or $50 phone rather than a $200 phone.
$100 vs $200
$1000 vs $2000
10,000 vs $20,000
1,000,000 vs $2,000,000 etc.
Its 100% savings and thats a lot of money to people who work or have to buy for family. If I had a teen I would much rather buy a $100 or $50 phone rather than a $200 phone.
$100 vs $200
$1000 vs $2000
10,000 vs $20,000
1,000,000 vs $2,000,000 etc.
A man more than 20 years your senior is buying a yellow 5c, so you might consider keeping your prejudices to yourself next time.
Though it would actually be better if you got over them.
you are from the minority amigo,you call other iPhones dull,but you fail to understand that's how all sophisticated gadgets look.that design goes with them and never gets boring.to prove you are minority,look at the sales of 5c vs 5s.almost everyone prefer the 5s,not necessarily because it's more high end and definitely not because it has touch ID,but mainly because it looks so much better and feels much more high quality.The troll responses in this thread are going to reach ridiculous levels.
I'll field this one.
1) I enjoy the colored back of the phone. It brings a splash of color to a line of products that has been dull for so long.
I personally wouldn't even bother with iPhone IF 5C was the only option.
again weird and rare taste.
most people wont sacrifice the quality and design of their product to save on warranty cost.what's next? I have $100 spare to buy more grocery? (but instead of having a nice metal iPhone I opted for the cheap looking toy model)
Apple is known for bringing class and fun interaction together. The colors are rubbish and look childish (even if it is a great phone). Only teens and students would consider the 5c and they're not the ones with the money!
As for the article, RUBBISH! iPhone 5c has been a massive flop. As my local radio station dubbed it... iPhone 5 Cheap!
I honestly would rather own an iPod touch than a 5c
As for the article, RUBBISH! iPhone 5c has been a massive flop. As my local radio station dubbed it... iPhone 5 Cheap!
I honestly would rather own an iPod touch than a 5c
This is too funny.
Apple under Tim Cook actually has the audacity and arrogance to think that slapping on some fancy colors on basically the same old phone from a year ago (which is ages ago in tech terms) would entice Chinese and Asian buyers to snap them up.
Who is Apple and Tim Cook trying to kid? The Chinese and Asian consumers are tech savvy and I don't think they would settle for something outdated.
If Tim Cook and the Apple execs would get their heads out of the sand and actually look around the world outside of the US for a change, they would realize that in the global market, consumers are mostly turning to bigger sized Android phones.
I just don't see Chinese and Asian consumers paying for a marked down phone in terms of technical specs and a smaller screen size (which makes it much more difficult to input in their language, which often require finger writing gestures on the screen) just because it is Apple branded and has different colors.
Apple under Tim Cook actually has the audacity and arrogance to think that slapping on some fancy colors on basically the same old phone from a year ago (which is ages ago in tech terms) would entice Chinese and Asian buyers to snap them up.
Who is Apple and Tim Cook trying to kid? The Chinese and Asian consumers are tech savvy and I don't think they would settle for something outdated.
If Tim Cook and the Apple execs would get their heads out of the sand and actually look around the world outside of the US for a change, they would realize that in the global market, consumers are mostly turning to bigger sized Android phones.
I just don't see Chinese and Asian consumers paying for a marked down phone in terms of technical specs and a smaller screen size (which makes it much more difficult to input in their language, which often require finger writing gestures on the screen) just because it is Apple branded and has different colors.
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A failure? Seriously? I say it's a brilliant way to get rid of the extra iPhone 5 guts they contracted to buy.
Here's my take...
Let's just say Apple wanted to make 15 million phones in 2012. The radio/processor/screen vendors said, as vendors typically do, "We'll give you a better deal if you commit to 20 million. "Ok" said Apple.
They do the bulk purchase dance every year. Along comes fall 2013; time for new phones. In the past, Apple would simply keep selling the previous year's model until it ran out of them.
This year, they got smart. Instead of selling the remainder of last year's model at a deep discount, they said, "Hey, why not recase the 5 in colorful plastic, and sell it at a slightly lower price than the 5?"
Then they called up the iPhone 5 aluminum housing factory and said, "Sorry, we won't be needing those expensive iPhone 5 housings anymore, we're doing them in plastic now."
How much money did they just save by switching to plastic?
So, the 5Cs are the overruns of 2013-14, like the 4S was the overrun of 2012-13...and not only are they being sold at less of a discount, they're costing Apple less to make.
In the end, I'd be willing to bet they've sold more 5Cs this year (and at a higher margin) than they sold 4Ss last year, and that is the ultimate goal...to get rid of product overruns in the least painful way possible.
The side bonus to all this is that Apple also gets to do a big real world focus group. Do people want a plastic colored phone? How better to find out than by snapping on a plastic case to the phones you made last year, instead of tooling up for an entirely new model that may or may not flop?
And now they know...maybe a colored plastic phone isn't their best idea. Or maybe after they crunch the numbers, they'll decide it was in fact a success, and that next year, they'll do it again, but with the guts from the latest phone instead of last year's model.
I've been by the Grand Central station Apple store twice in the last few days. The first time, about a week ago, there was a line ten people long buying 5cs. Yesterday morning (at 8:00 a.m.) there was a cluster of four or five people buying them. With folks showing up about as fast as the Apple folks could sell them.
Supposedly the Moto X plant is scheduling 150,000 phones per month for US sales. And this is supposed to be Google's next flagship phone.
Supposedly the Moto X plant is scheduling 150,000 phones per month for US sales. And this is supposed to be Google's next flagship phone.
Only in the additive color model (light mixing) is black the absence of color. In a subtractive model (dye mixing), black is the three primary colors mixed together.
Apologies to anyone who has already corrected this error.
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IOW, the additive and subtractive color models.
What you see as black is still the absence of colour.
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