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Apple Reportedly Cutting iPhone SE Production Just Weeks After Launch Due to 'Weaker-Than-Expected' Demand
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Yes, I also just realized I overlooked the name of this site, MacRumors. I suppose that explains it.
Not at that price. $299 would have been a hit but I don't think it's the hit they want.
15-20 million units is not a small number. The iPhone SE 2020 was the #2 selling smartphone of all brands and models the year it was released…
As for low demand, it’s likely too expensive. Inflation is really hurting many families right now, at least in the US.
I'm calling it now: The next iPhone SE will look like the iPhone 13 Mini.
There are all of those rumors about the Mini going away, with the regular and max sizes for the 14 and 14 Pro. Nope, it will become the SE in Spring 2024. By then it will be the only iPhone with a notch in 2024, while the iPhone 14 Pro will lose the notch, and the iPhone 15 will lose the notch the following year (2023). It will probably be OLED but the cheaper kind with lower dynamic range and it will also probably be the only iPhone without Pro Motion by that point. It will have an outdated 12mp camera compared to the 48MP camera on the newer iPhones (14 Pro and then 15). It will probably have whatever slower version of 5G and it probably won't have the updated industrial design that is going back to the rounded buttons. And there will probably be something else random that they cheap out on like having the "old" (current) version of Face ID that is slower or no under display fingerprint reader, which newer iPhones are rumored to get. I bet they also bump the price up to $499 unless inflation really spirals out of control, in which case everything would be a lot higher.
There are all of those rumors about the Mini going away, with the regular and max sizes for the 14 and 14 Pro. Nope, it will become the SE in Spring 2024. By then it will be the only iPhone with a notch in 2024, while the iPhone 14 Pro will lose the notch, and the iPhone 15 will lose the notch the following year (2023). It will probably be OLED but the cheaper kind with lower dynamic range and it will also probably be the only iPhone without Pro Motion by that point. It will have an outdated 12mp camera compared to the 48MP camera on the newer iPhones (14 Pro and then 15). It will probably have whatever slower version of 5G and it probably won't have the updated industrial design that is going back to the rounded buttons. And there will probably be something else random that they cheap out on like having the "old" (current) version of Face ID that is slower or no under display fingerprint reader, which newer iPhones are rumored to get. I bet they also bump the price up to $499 unless inflation really spirals out of control, in which case everything would be a lot higher.
Consider Apple still releases iOS 12 updates for 2 iPhone models, 3 iPad models, and the penultimate iPod Touch.
IF they have to allocate resources to patching an old iOS version for 2/3 devices, then they can keep them on the main OS and disable functionalities, hust as they do with ML-unable iPhones.
I was talking my Mum through the options for upgrading her old iPhone 8 and going through what she's get by upgrading to an SE. She did sum it rather well with "But it sounds like what I've got and mine's ancient. Why would I pay that much for a new one?"
She won't see a difference between 4G and 5G as she's on a cheap non-5G plan, so there really isn't anything she'd get for the rather large price tag. I can see why the demand is low - it seems to have just missed the mark.
She won't see a difference between 4G and 5G as she's on a cheap non-5G plan, so there really isn't anything she'd get for the rather large price tag. I can see why the demand is low - it seems to have just missed the mark.
$120, new battery, mint condition.
Not sure about iOS 16, but I don't care. I've been stuck with iOS 12 for 3 years, so that's a change. I'll have plenty of time before iOS 15 reaches EOL. On iOS 12, some apps are already refusing to install.
This.
On the other side, price bump is ridiculous, but this is our Timmy, who would fight over a cent found on the street with homeless guy.
Small iPhone crowd here, still on the original SE. SE3 is just bad at this price point. My only concern about the chip in my phone is energy consumption and being able to handle very basic tasks. Small phone crowd usually has other devices for that. SE3 looks ugly (my SE is older but looks so much better) not small enough and too expensive for an entry phone because of features I don't need. So I'll finally give in to that atrocious notch and faceid, and I'll pick up a 13 mini.
That and the fact there were no promo deals. This should be free if carriers can knock up to a 1000 off an iPhone pro. Basically I could pay around 500-600 for an se. Or less for a pro, nonpro, etc.
I don’t get the SE hate. Sure, it’s all configured in an older design, but plenty of people out there would prefer spending $429 on a phone versus $600, $800 or $1000+. Nobody was complaining about that screen size and design 4-5 years ago, but in that little time, it’s now “unusable”? Lol Come on guys. Talk about first world problems. At the end of the day, you still get a brand new Apple phone that will easily last you several years. What you lose in the display department is leveled-out with less weight, a fast chip and Touch ID.
Tens of millions of people have been buying the SE iPhones, as they will with the SE3. They sure understand the point, which you still fail to get.
My bets are production cut will be reversed as the year goes on. As inflation hits the world, people will be deciding based on cost, not features.
The features that separate SE3 and the rest of the newer models (let’s exclude 2nd hand 11 or 12), it’s not that much of a jump for the useful stuff.
Camera and OLED.
Not everyone is a tech enthusiast. I’m one and decided against 13/13mini. They’re actually quite ugly phones. ?♂️
The features that separate SE3 and the rest of the newer models (let’s exclude 2nd hand 11 or 12), it’s not that much of a jump for the useful stuff.
Camera and OLED.
Not everyone is a tech enthusiast. I’m one and decided against 13/13mini. They’re actually quite ugly phones. ?♂️
I just wish Apple would move TouchID to the power button and give us the option to use that instead of FaceID. I don't like having to look at my phone all the time to login. I'm often tempted to get the SE just to get TouchID, but I can't look at the screen resolution anymore. I have become spoiled by the higher resolution iPhones.
Really? So you would buy a 80s car with everything else inside, like engine, etc. being new technology?
People want bigger screen size, not better processor in smaller screensize. Kind of defeats the purpose if you can't utilize that new processor because you are squinting at the screen, or having difficulty typing on it, right? If they sold iPhone 8 Plus with A15 chip, it might have sold better, but then Apple will lose customers from their iPhone 13 line.
Apple will have difficulty selling any small phones, especially the SE (Small Edition). They will even have trouble selling the 12/13 Mini at $430 as well. Just wasting money and time producing/marketing them.
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Not everyone wants bigger screens though. Sure, I would agree the majority do, but there will always be a market for people who want smaller devices. Also, I don’t think comparing a 1980’s car to a 2016 iPhone is a good comparison at all. A bit of a stretch there, wouldn’t you say?
Yes, everyone wants bigger screen. Apple is the only phone company still selling smaller screens, which are simply refurbished models.
Pointless? Even at the lower 15 to 20 million sales estimate for the year, that's still around $6.5 billion to $8.5 billion in revenue. Plus, there's the potential app revenue from these SE users.
A phone like the SE is all many people want/need. If they can get it for over 40% less than the next level (13 mini) phone, all the better for them.
Guys, it’s not about outdated design but about missing features. People buy SE because of the design but fastest chip is something that people doesn’t care/need. They want added value. I love my 8Plus but I would buy something else than new SE even though I would like to stay with the conservative deisgn. Why spend money on a fast chip when you really don’t need it? So it is better to spend a little bit more and buy 11, XR, 12 mini … with new features and technology. They missed the oportunity to really update the SE.