The target market for this us being crushed by inflation. They’re not buying anything they don’t have to.
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Apple Reportedly Cutting iPhone SE Production Just Weeks After Launch Due to 'Weaker-Than-Expected' Demand
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Yes the same percentage of users have bulky otter box cases with exposed TouchID for 6-to-SE2 so why cannot the same cases be adjusted for TouchID on sleep/wake buttons ? Hmmm
What I don’t understand about the SE anymore is why Apple doesn’t dig into its margins quite a bit just to get an entry-level device at an entry-level price
Their really big margins are on all the services revenue in the ecosystem
They should be trying to get these phones in more hands
Their really big margins are on all the services revenue in the ecosystem
They should be trying to get these phones in more hands
The number of cases that would have to be adjusted to expose the sleep button is way way way more than had to be adjusted to expose Touch ID. Sure, otterbox cases and other full-protection cases protected the Touch ID button; but the vast vast vast majority of cases you can get out there have always exposed the entire face of the phone including the button. I think the number of case manufacturers that had to somehow re-engineer their cases to account for Touch ID was vanishingly small in the universe of iPhone cases.
Kuo is such a brilliant analyst that in just a few weeks he's had to cut his forecasts by 33.3% to 40%!
From 25-30 million down to “only“ 15-20 million!
(Note: do the math — 10/25 = 40% and 10/30 = 33.3%)
Talk about an inaccurate prediction! ?❌??
On the other hand, he's still predicting that up to 20 million iPhone SEs will be sold this year alone! That's HUGE!
Much of this thread, however, is built around the assumption that the phone isn't selling and is already a flop; along with people asserting they knew all along it would be. ???
Any wagers that subsidiary services, app revenue (to a much lesser extent), and new owners will generate a substantial profit for Apple, anyway? ?
As the year goes on, demand will pick up especially for birthdays, graduations, back to school, and the holidays. With $50+ price cuts by 3rd party sellers later in the year, and even, perhaps, fall cuts by Apple (back to $399), sales will boom even more!
You've heard it here first — this phone will be a sleeper hit and revenue generator! ?? ??? ? ???
From 25-30 million down to “only“ 15-20 million!
(Note: do the math — 10/25 = 40% and 10/30 = 33.3%)
Talk about an inaccurate prediction! ?❌??
On the other hand, he's still predicting that up to 20 million iPhone SEs will be sold this year alone! That's HUGE!
Much of this thread, however, is built around the assumption that the phone isn't selling and is already a flop; along with people asserting they knew all along it would be. ???
Any wagers that subsidiary services, app revenue (to a much lesser extent), and new owners will generate a substantial profit for Apple, anyway? ?
As the year goes on, demand will pick up especially for birthdays, graduations, back to school, and the holidays. With $50+ price cuts by 3rd party sellers later in the year, and even, perhaps, fall cuts by Apple (back to $399), sales will boom even more!
You've heard it here first — this phone will be a sleeper hit and revenue generator! ?? ??? ? ???
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While partially true, the real culprit is the fact that many people are using their phones as their primary Internet connectivity device. That's why Apple decided (if the rumors are true!) to roll out an iPhone 14 Max model with a 6.7" touchscreen.
The mini is perfect for low to moderate users. Out all day taking photos and videos, and IG, and maps, and…. Yeah no. Even the 13mini improved SOT of about +\- 6 hours, it’s not a power/work horse.
Definitely not a media consumption or Content Creator’s tool.
Right. They will just forget about making a smaller cheaper phone with powerful insides and focus on the phones making a much larger profit.
I’m actually planning to trade my iPhone 8 for one of these. It stays in a case anyway, so the design is less important. Bigger may have been better, but faster and more capable works for me.
They should lower the price to $397. There is are psychological barriers a certain price points and I believe $400 may be one for their target audience for this phone in the current marketplace.
I disagree. My wife loves that size and the TouchID
There are still plenty of Apple users who want a phone that fits their hand
Don’t we get these posts with every iPhone release? Apple over estimates demand and cuts production! Cut to two months later… Apple posting record profits on the quarter on the backs of the iPhone SE and Mac Studio. Maybe, just maybe they know what they are doing and ramp up production to account for the immediate demand and then scale back to a more reasonable level after the initial hype dies down.
I don't think so with the more mainstream offerings (normal 13 and 13 Pro/ProMax)
But my memory of it could be wrong
For reasons you mentioned above, iPhone sales go up and down during the year but that would've (should've) been factored into an overall sales estimate. If sales to this point are below expectations, then it would not be unreasonable to assume that sales at other high and low periods later in the year could end up below original expectations too. The problem is that when you're dealing with unusual or uncertain situations (e.g., Ukraine), forecasting becomes more complicated.
I think it's too cheap. They only raised the price by $100, and if you also account for inflation, that means the price only doubled compared to the last iPhone SE. Give me an iPhone that costs at least 8 times more and I might buy it. All this immense amount of money I earned while being jobless during the pandemic with tripling food and living costs thanks to 20% inflation due to the war and the pandemic ain't going to spend itself!
Seriously asking, you are correct that the 13 Mini is smaller than the Iphone SE 2022, not by much but the point remains, can you name some quality Android phones that have the exact dimensions or are smaller than the 13 Mini, because I have been unable to find any, thank you.
You ordered it without knowing that you would be going from a 5.5" screen to a 4.7" screen, is your post a joke?
Today I learned the iPhone 6 was released in the spring of 2012 rather than the fall of 2014. Seems wikipedia and a bunch of other sites are going to need updating.
(And it's really the iPhone 8 design, as that brought the glass back - everyone else seems to think the iPhone 8 was released in the fall of 2017.)
Well said. Some people forget that there are those who do not consider a smartphone being the centre of the universe. For proper photography I have my Nikon, for newspaper reading I have my iPad, for web browsing I have some wonderful macs, for listening to music I have my hifi stereo system, for movies I have my large TV. And for content creation... I couldn't even survive the first 2 minutes doing that on a tiny phone screen, so many compromises on all ends.
Hence I'm perfectly happy with an iPhone mini.
I understand using the same part for the past 20 years to keep costs down, but they could have thrown a little something different for that market. Then again the iPhone Mini flopped. Maybe that’s not the market they should pursue.
Yeah, I have different size phones and while I like the smaller size phone like the Pixel 4a which is a 5.9" screen. I typically carry a larger Pixel like the Pixel 4a 5G or the Pixel 6. My eyesight at 63 is pretty poor and I hate wearing bifocals so with a larger screen I can see the text better on a bigger screen. But my preference is definitely a smaller phone.