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I’ve never heard of a plastic watch - ever. But maybe that’s because I never looked too hard.
Swatch watches are around for like 40years

 
You mean hard coated polycarbonate? Apple will never call it plastic.
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i really loved phone 5c look and feel - best iphone casing ever, if they made pro model in plastic, that would be best iphone ever for me
 
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That's ok I think. But I think this year's Apple Watch SE HAS to have the thinner bezels that started with the Series 7. I just can't see the super thickkkk bezels on an Apple Watch anymore, it's soooo outdated. And with the Series X coming, which will offer even more features over the Series 9, I think the gap between the SE 3 and Series X will be big enough for the SE 3 to have the thinner bezels and not loose out on many customers. Because we know they want to push people to the more expensive models but there'll be enough of a gap between the 2 still.

Now when it comes to the Series X, I hope it gets at least a slight redesign. I own a Series 7 and I love my Apple Watch, I'm upgrading every 3 years so I'm getting one for sure this year. I not only hope but also expect a redesign, I also expect the Series X watch bands to be universal between sizes. For some reason I think Apple will always have wanted to have 1 single band for both case sizes for inventory, etc. So I hope this will be the case too.
 
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I just want a bigger watch face so I can add more battery draining complications. The biggest battery killers for me are CARROT Weather calendars or calendars five by Readdle Steps activity tracker and AutoSleep and the default Apple calendar, which I wanna keep separate from Calendars so yeah on this 45 mm cellular Apple Watch nine I get maybe 36 hours I’d like to double that to 72 so the next watch is definitely gonna be either Apple Watch 10 or ultra watch three.

but I can see giving a couple of the Apple Watch SE‘s as Christmas gifts

Tom
Maybe this will drive my sister away from Google and then I can give her an iMac that I’ve got laying around and put her for Emily in the ecosystem and then I could actually talk to her
 
This may be a stupid question but who the f is Mark Gurman and why does everyone speculate and look to his very miss predictions? He doesn't know, and if he did he would have signed an NDA. We may as well ask a nest of tables.
I would say it’s a newbie question, but, weirdly, you’re a member and joined 10 years ago… And I don’t want to assume anything about your intelligence or lack thereof, but it is indeed an outright bizarre question coming from someone who apparently frequents MR and – here I’m actually assuming – should probably already know how the rumour mill works on a technical level. Maybe you just hang out more in very specific sub-forums instead of here on the main, rumour-focused one?

Anyway, you did ask, so I’ll have to “rumoursplain” you, then: Mark Gurman has insider information, i.e. he has sources, and do you know who has those? That’s right, reporters and journalists. Which he very much is. More specifically, he’s the chief correspondent for Bloomberg on all matters Apple-related.

Nominally, he doesn’t “know” anything for sure, or not when it comes to rumours, because he can a) be purposely fed wrong information and b) be fed true information on products that are delayed, cancelled or changed at the last minute, and indeed he has got some rumours wrong in the past. That doesn’t change the fact that he seems to be very judicious with his sources (some of which are, indeed, under NDAs, and spill the beans to him at great personal risk and especially cost if and when Apple catches them) and that, statistically speaking and in hindsight, he’s been the most accurate reporter when it comes to unreleased Apple products for at least a decade now (incidentally the exact amount of time you’ve been here).

There are, obviously, others, Ming-chi Kuo being an also very prominent and reliable one. That one in particular isn’t a reporter in the traditional sense, but he works as an analyst for International Securities, so he’s also got a vested interest in going out after accurate sources. And there is, of course… MacRumors! This is a multi-million-dollar business, after all, and there will always be people in the design and production chain willing to become sources, as well as reporters and other professionals eager to bridge that gap and give the info they’re fed some degree of credibility and especially anonymity.

It’s pretty obvious, then, why the rumour mill works this way: if we exclude the infamous ThinkSecret debacle (in a nutshell, TS was a prominent competitor of both MR and the also still active AppleInsider, and got basically bankrupt and shut down by Apple after they bought a lost iPhone 4 prototype and leaked it), Apple usually only goes after the leakers and moles (what I’d call serial leakers) and not the journalists themselves, as the latter usually have legal protection in the countries they operate from, which allows them to patently refuse to reveal their sources.

And here’s where it gets really ugly: the very existence of this website, or at least its permanence in where it’s currently headquartered in, hinges on the results of the next US presidential elections; without a free press, and Apple having free rein to go after those who give aid and comfort to the leakers, you can probably kiss all your rumour sites and even rumour-related reports on regular outlets goodbye. Apple executives paint themselves as these cute, principled and benign people, but the fact that they operate in countries dominated by horrendously undemocratic regimes and were willing to make overtures to the previous administration, combined with said aggressive lawsuit that basically bankrupted the kid who owned it and got his website shut down, is proof positive that they don’t give a damn about the First Amendment and will do whatever they feel is best for their shareholders’ interests. 🤷‍♂️
 
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I would say it’s a newbie question, but, weirdly, you’re a member and joined 10 years ago… And I don’t want to assume anything about your intelligence or lack thereof, but it is indeed an outright bizarre question coming from someone who apparently frequents MR and – here I’m actually assuming – should probably already know how the rumour mill works on a technical level. Maybe you just hang out more in very specific sub-forums instead of here on the main, rumour-focused one?

Anyway, you did ask, so I’ll have to “rumoursplain” you, then: Mark Gurman has insider information, i.e. he has sources, and do you know who has those? That’s right, reporters and journalists. Which he very much is. More specifically, he’s the chief correspondent for Bloomberg on all matters Apple-related.

Nominally, he doesn’t “know” anything for sure, or not when it comes to rumours, because he can a) be purposely fed wrong information and b) be fed true information on products that are delayed, cancelled or changed at the last minute, and indeed he has got some rumours wrong in the past. That doesn’t change the fact that he seems to be very judicious with his sources (some of which are, indeed, under NDAs, and spill the beans to him at great personal risk and especially cost if and when Apple catches them) and that, statistically speaking and in hindsight, he’s been the most accurate reporter when it comes to unreleased Apple products for at least a decade now (incidentally the exact amount of time you’ve been here).

There are, obviously, others, Ming-chi Kuo being an also very prominent and reliable one. That one in particular isn’t a reporter in the traditional sense, but he works as an analyst for International Securities, so he’s also got a vested interest in going out after accurate sources. And there is, of course… MacRumors! This is a multi-million-dollar business, after all, and there will always be people in the design and production chain willing to become sources, as well as reporters and other professionals eager to bridge that gap and give the info they’re fed some degree of credibility and especially anonymity.

And it’s pretty obvious why the rumour mill works this way: if we exclude the infamous ThinkSecret debacle (basically TS was a prominent competitor of both MR and the still active AppleInsider, and got basically bankrupt and shut down by Apple after they bought a lost iPhone 4 prototype and leaked it), Apple usually only goes after the leakers and moles (what I’d call serial leakers) and not the journalists themselves, as the latter usually have legal protection in the countries they operate from, which allows them to patently refuse to reveal their sources.

Right. And though many here like to deny it, his relationship with Apple is quite close and is a two way street. Gurman walks softly. His “rumor” content is basically vetted by Apple and Apple often uses him to disseminate information and DISinformation.
 
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Sure would be funny to make it white, so it could look just like the previously quite-expensive Apple Watch Series 5 in ceramic.

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That was my first thought; while the 5C was an interesting-looking device, there's no denying that coated white plastic looked quite similar to the white Ceramic Edition watches.

I once had someone recognize it as a special edition watch, but had no idea what it was made out of. While it stands out, most folks have no idea it's specifically made of ceramic.

Would be quite ironic to go from $1500 to sub-$200 for a white watch. I wouldn't be salty, though. Ironically, quite interested. The white 5C also reminded me of the old white iPods. Replicate that white-under-clear look, and I'm an immediate buyer.

I’ve never heard of a plastic watch - ever. But maybe that’s because I never looked too hard.

Swatch watches, many big-box retailer digital watches, and pretty much every watch made for kids, ever?
 
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