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I‘m bored of the tinted aluminium that Apple keeps using. Coloured plastic would be a really nice change. Hopefully it’ll come with an always on display.

its laughable that the little bits of aluminium in these watches would cost much after 10 years of production. Plastic won’t save them anything, but people believe the marketing and it shows if you bought the cheap watch…
 
They should make a plastic version of the basic Mac. My first Mac was £399, and it was great.
The MacBook Air that I've had for 4 years is still great, but a cheaper one would have been better!!
 
Plastic cases are much better than metal ones for antenna reception. Besides being much lighter as well. And not getting so hot to the wrist touch…

And Apple should do other changes to the Watch as well to boost sales; unless for the Apple Watch Ultra: truly standalone (not requiring any other device to setup and use, albeit Mac dependency could be acceptable, but not iPhone or iPad dependency) and built-in camera, ideally telescopic rotating retractable camera inside the watch crown. Until that happens, the only alternative are Android watches. A shame for Apple!
I had a Titanium Powerbook G4 and the wifi was awful.
 
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and built-in camera, ideally telescopic rotating retractable camera inside the watch crown.

I am genuinely curious as to what type of pictures you are planning to take with such a camera, that would make it a more suitable tool than the phone you also have in you pocket.
 
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The plastic casing was perfect at that price point and it was a great phone. Lots of kids had them. They were very tough and could be dropped without causing damage most of the time. Plastic is a far better choice than aluminum for things that bounce off the ground.

Agree. My girlfriend at the time had the iPhone SE 5c and she loved it. Any complaints were more due to it being underpowered (even for those days), not the design or plastic casing, which were great.

Unfortunately, the glass screen wasn’t as strong as the plastic back: I remember it cracked one time just from being dropped from coffee-table height.

Edit: 5c, not SE
 
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Doesn’t sound very recyclable.
The idea of yearly upgrades does not sound very recyclable too.
Seriously, people who developed alergy to garbage metals including aluminium and do not want to spend fortune on titanium or stainless steel will going to use them.
My thumbs up for the plastic is based on this. Of course cost cutting plastic apple watch, but still apple watch.
 
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Now that would be not a smart move at all, camera will suck the battery

Easily solved. Just give it an external battery pack, like the Vision Pro. :cool:

and dependency on a Mac would drastically cut the market size.

I don’t think he meant “dependent” in that way, rather you should be able to optionally set it up with a Mac or other device instead of an iPhone, and not have it require the iPhone.
 
I’m looking forward to the new, low cost Watch SE to pair with my iPhone 15.
 
I had a Titanium Powerbook G4 and the wifi was awful.

I don’t remember the WiFi being bad. Even just having built-in WiFi on a laptop was a small miracle in those days, most required an add-on PCMCIA card (or “Airport card” for Macs).

Biggest flaws were: the case would develop hairline cracks near the hinges. The batteries kind of sucked. And the old power adapters really sucked: hardwired cord so you had to replace the whole thing every year or two when it inevitably frayed/failed at the Mac end.
 
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Not sure about a plastic case, but then again, anything would be better than buying that stupid idea of the gold edition. Whoever thought of that should be fired! Oh wait, she was.. Angela Ahrendts. I appreciate the wealthy could afford it, but even that makes you question their choice. Spending $20k (AUD, cant remember what it was in USD) on a digital watch? That would be obsolete in 5 years? That wouldn't eventually have updates? That was initially plagued with poor battery life? That had the screen lift off? Come on.. spend $20k on a proper time piece.. Patek Philip, Longines, Hublot, Rolex, Breitling Bentley Series.. something that will last 20, 30, 50 years with care, not a digital watch. I was working for Apple, when under her 'leadership', the most expensive iPhone (which started this 'luxury' Apple trend) was released, in the iPhone X. iPhone X was released with no cases available to buy and you had to order them. Angela had the major of third party cases removed of the shelves. In Australia, we didnt have overnight shipping. People were rightfully, not happy. Soon after, after 9 years, I left Apple. I saw where this was heading. Since then, I have only ever bought 2x iPhones. I'm sorry Ron Johnson!
 
that stupid idea of the gold edition. Whoever thought of that should be fired! Oh wait, she was.. Angela Ahrendts.

Jony Ive, surely.

Ahrendts was head of retail at Apple, she had nothing to do with product design. Besides, she joined shortly before the Watch was released: the Gold Edition would have been in development for years before she arrived.
 
Jony Ive, surely.

Ahrendts was head of retail at Apple, she had nothing to do with product design. Besides, she joined shortly before the Watch was released: the Gold Edition would have been in development for years before she arrived.

Ive was credited with seeing the watch like tech-jewelry and more like a fashion accessory.

He was largely responsible for making the device in 24K gold to make a huge first-get splash among celebrities for that "wow-factor".

Smart of Apple to move the Edition watches to Ceramic and Titanium (before the Ultra) to appeal to the masses. I'll always be a Steel fan because, to a degree, I appreciate Ive's eye for technology in respect to the wardrobe.

The Apple Watch in certain finishes with certain bands is able to blend the line between dressy watch and fitness accessory.
 
I wonder if the performance will be throttled if true. I don't think plastic disperses heat as well as aluminum or SS.
Will probably scratch easier too.
I could see the lineup though:
Apple Watch SE: Plastic - no cellular option
Apple Watch Series 10: Same aluminum - GPS + Cellular option
Apple Watch Pro: Stainless Steel - Cellular only
Apple Watch Ultra: Titanium
Apple Watch X: Mythril
 
It’s a good idea. I had two plastic watches which worked as intended, and I didn’t mind wearing. Most recently, the Amazon Halo. Years ago, a Timex Ironman.
 
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Oh good. A Fisher Price Edition.
 
If Apple really wants a more affordable, more competitive Apple Watch then they'd also stop requiring an iPhone for setup/maintenance and release an Android setup/maintenance app (also compatible with Chromebooks) as an initial alternative. Followed by setup/maintenance options involving Macs and iPads (duh), and finally Windows PCs. Presumably there'd still be some functions that are exclusive to Apple's paired devices since Apple probably can't technically do everything on Android or Windows. Samsung and Google would then face a choice: make their watches at least setup/maintenance-compatible with iPhones (and Macs and iPads) or lose market share. Garmin already supports both iPhone and Android.

Does Apple really want a more affordable, more competitive Apple Watch?🤔
 
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Ive was credited with seeing the watch like tech-jewelry and more like a fashion accessory.

He was largely responsible for making the device in 24K gold to make a huge first-get splash among celebrities for that "wow-factor".

Smart of Apple to move the Edition watches to Ceramic and Titanium (before the Ultra) to appeal to the masses. I'll always be a Steel fan because, to a degree, I appreciate Ive's eye for technology in respect to the wardrobe.

The Apple Watch in certain finishes with certain bands is able to blend the line between dressy watch and fitness accessory.
She was indeed in charge of retail, but it wasn't only retail. She was brought on board for a 'fashion division' - from what I can recall. Whilst I have no doubt Ive had control with regards to the design, I am quite sure Ahrendts was recruited because she was the former CEO of Burberry and to bring that feel to Apple. It was her 'expertise' that was wanted in this area. I personally think that was the wrong move for Apple. That isn't what they were known for. I agree there is something to be said with regards to out fitting your wardrobe to a wearable, but back then, due to rather large increase in pricing (watch, iPhone etc) and the then lack of accessories, it did leave people with a sour taste in their mouths. Many of the 'mums and dads' that made Apple a house-hold name, felt neglected, that they were being price pushed out the door. And I can understand that. That is not what made Apple what it was back then. A coincidence? Perhaps.. but I also recall this during my time as well:

 
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