$3K - $4K for a large display iMac or a Vision Pro for $3.5K where you can make the display as big/small as you want? 🤔
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Apple Reportedly Developing Larger iMac With Over 30-Inch Display
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Apple’s in touch with their buyers. There are just a good number of people that WANT to be buyers, but are out of touch with Apple.
HobeSoundDarryl
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I agree. I just bought a new car and then the manufacturer personally screwed me over by introducing a 2024 model with features mine doesn't have. Seriously?! If you buy something, they should NOT be allowed to introduce new products after that!!!
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Just ordered a Mac Studio and Pro Display XDR to replace my almost 5 year old iMac Pro. It will be a nice upgrade but an all in one would have been nicer, especially since the XDR doesn’t even have a build in camera and speakers.
I agree. It’s not retina, but it’s a whole lot more useful. I have one and it’s been great. Can switch between Mac and PC laptops or have both on screen at same time with size matching 2 27” screens with zero bezel side by side.
This could literally be a comment from 2005, or 2015, or 1992.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
The "gigantic" is no thicker than my Apple iPad bezel... but perhaps you meant the bezel on the 6K.
IMO, "build quality" is an Apple fan thing to rationalize the Apple premium. In about 35 years of owning all kinds of computers, I've never heard one person compliment or criticize the quality of materials used in the cases of any kind of computing device I've ever owned... nor compliment or even seem to notice how the back of a monitor looks. Generally, people seem to care how the screen looks or- in this case- how WIDE my screen is now.
Once we get overly concerned with such stuff ourselves, we find ourselves in a mindset of "only an Apple monitor can suffice"... for which there are only TWO choices: a very high-priced one and a single sized one priced at what a whole iMac 27" computer + keyboard + mouse used to cost, now without Apple having to pay the Intel premium.
If only Apple can do, one pays whatever Apple asks. However, if we can get past things that press us to get into that mindset, there are PLENTY of fish in the sea. The vast majority of desktop users in the world right now are doing all of their computing work on monitors other than ASD. It works just fine for those multitudes- no problem at all. The bulk of them probably never even give the case materials a thought.
You're comparing VisionOS which is an extension of iOS, to a Mac running MacOS. The multitasking is quite different between the two as well as the application depth of interfacing how it is used. So the price comparison is not really a good example IMHO.
Yes it should cost in the range of a Mac Studio and Apple Studio Display combined. There's nothing inherently wrong with this. I just think it would be better if people bought into the Mac Studio + Apple Studio Display approach now if they really think they still need a Mac. iPad Pro is a great solution for most people.
Would rather they focus on a range of monitors and a range of minis, and let people buy what they need for each. I expect a display to last longer than a computer (that is in terms of acceptable performance). I don't really want to throw out a 30" display for each computer upgrade.
It makes me wonder if their ace marketing team waits until all hope for a product release dies before they decide to release it again. 🤷♂️
Doubt it; the iMac is Apples most hated product internally. The lack of updates is received .. it’s a forgotten product.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I agree. I share that because I suspect a LOT of the "I want an iMac "Bigger" wave is driven by the old iMac 27" pricing... as if now that Apple has succeeded at selling only the monitor portion of the iMac 27" at that price, they can now stick a whole computer in there and put a keyboard and mouse in the box and sell all of that for under $2K too.
IMO, that ship has completely sailed. Unless ASD had a big price drop, I see no way back to traditional iMac 27" pricing. I suspect the actual reason it was killed was for the money too... specifically target margin. Among all Macs, it was a relative bargain. Modern Apple wants "another record revenue & profit" quarter every quarter, so any bargains must go.
Kill it for a while, establish only the monitor at the old pricing, then roll out a new iMac "bigger" PRO at something more like the pricing of the former iMac Pro. Apple has already been there and done that. There's much more margin in that iMac. Adjust pricing down from the higher RAM and SSD specs in the former iMac Pro to get a probable "starting at" price. Adjust pricing up for "inflation" and "supply chain" and the other stuff we come up with to rationalize higher prices. Perhaps make the keyboard and mouse sold separate items. Boom: about $3499 as "starting at" and $4K-$5K nicely configured.
Yep, I was talking about the 6K.
Yes, I understand your point about other options but build quality is something to highly consider. I still rocking my 30" ACD and next year, it will be a 20-year-old display, the design is still great and the aluminum casing is beautiful to look at despite the old design. This is why the XDR is so appealing to me but, I am still having a hard time paying that price tag. 😂
For apple to start seeding info on the large iMac as coming in a year or two is obnoxious. Many people were hoping a model for 2 years by now to be announced with the current lineup that was just refreshed. ie Mac studio, MacBook Air 15"
Apple is slow as hell on this. not cool. so glad I bought a new Mac studio. M2
Apple is slow as hell on this. not cool. so glad I bought a new Mac studio. M2
Zero interest. Computers have much shorter lifespans than monitors. Better off buying a studio and a really good (non-overpriced) third party monitor.
30in iMac for $3500 or Vision Pro with infinite screen for the same price? Of course one would be known tech, the other a mystery.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I'm apparently one of the few who thinks Vpro as an any-size monitor is a fantastic option. I look forward to trying one in person to see if it can stand in well for an any-size monitor wherever I am.
However, I see it as an ideal, on-the-go, virtual laptop screen vs. an every-day, all-day desktop screen replacement. While I'm open to anything, my current thoughts are that I'll want a traditional (albeit big screen ultra-wide) as my main monitor for day-to-day use but hopefully a Vpro as the monitor for my next laptop purchase. Maybe after trying a Vpro, I'll feel different about that?
That combination would basically get me a big screen at my primary work spot and also wherever I happen to be... or as I'm on my way to getting to such places (on the plane for example). I hope it is actually as good at that as it looked in the demo. Going from 40" ultra-wide to 16" MBpro feels so cramped and relatively unproductive, I easily see great application in this direction for Vpro even at $3500.
I’m not sure about the RAM, but my guess is that 256gb SSD will be gone by 2025.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
If so, perhaps a 512gb SSD is put in a single (of two slots) to keep the half-speed party going? There's great profit in upgrades. Apple will find a way to maximize those 💰💰💰 no matter what the tech backdrop.
So, how about 5.7K resolution - 5760x3240 at 30.3"? That would jive with the >30" rumour, it would be Apple's usual 218 ppi, and it wouldn't be much bigger physically than the current iMac if they reduced the bezel size. At around the same time they could introduce a new 34" Pro Display XDR.
However, I'd personally prefer a standalone ~30" monitor, and I'd probably run that monitor scaled at something like 5120x2880.
However, I'd personally prefer a standalone ~30" monitor, and I'd probably run that monitor scaled at something like 5120x2880.
It’s the same thing with the stories about the Extreme… information provided to only a few people internally and, if it doesn’t get out, no harm no foul. If it DOES get out, then they know exactly who would have leaked it and that person (persons) is shown the door to their next job.