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2024 is probably too early for mass production to start.

Even if Toyota opened CATIA this morning to begin design work, the car would likely be more of a 2026 model. Cars are extremely arduous things to develop and certify.
We don’t know what stage it’s at. Typically leaks and rumors come after the actual item being discussed already occurred, sometimes long after.
 
We don’t know what stage it’s at. Typically leaks and rumors come after the actual item being discussed already occurred, sometimes long after.
Then Apple’s first EV will based on the Toyota bZ4X and will either simply be a badge-engineered vehicle like the Subaru Solterra or possibly, maybe have an Apple inspired custom design with Apple UI bits. It won’t be an revolutionary Apple manufactured self driving EV. Cars are harder than Apple thinks because it requires competencies that Apple just doesn’t possess at this time.
 
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This could make an interesting partnership, given that Toyota is one of the largest three vehicle manufacturers and the only one with no real plans to transition to battery electric vehicles.

Apple and Toyota teaming up to make a new brand could give Toyota a good path forward in transitioning to battery electric vehicles. Apple probably has a lot more knowledge of managing batteries than most other companies... Samsung, Panasonic, Tesla, and maybe a few other battery manufacturing companies are the only ones who probably know more.
 
This car would last forever. Apple software + Toyota hardware is a powerful combo
 
Would like to see an American car for a change.
The only three American car companies are Ford, GM, and Tesla.

Some people would list Stellantis as a fourth American car company, but that's silly - it's a merger between an Italian company and a French company that has a Dutch headquarters. Chrysler was acquired, plain and simple - the company that acquired it (and subsequently merged with another) cannot argue that it is American.
 
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Not sure about anyone else, but I’d pay an automaker more to have a vehicle that is unique and doesn’t share a “platform” with any other vehicle.

And while you can’t deny the longevity of a Toyota or a Honda. I hear the word Toyota and just picture cheap, grey, plastic interiors.
 
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Toyota and Apple seems solid. But I hope nothing like that Apple/Motorola phone the Motorola ROKR precursor to the real iPhone.
 
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I just don’t see anyone doing it better than Tesla.
Sure, apple might come out with a nice $100k ultra luxury car, but anyone can do that now. But no one to just going to leap frog Tesla in AI auto drive arena very easily.

I mean Siri is still a bit of a hot mess.
I hate to be “that guy” (okay, maybe I don’t) but, BlackBerry.
 
Toyota were very slow on the uptake of EV models, but they are apparently going balls out to catch up in the next few years with dozens of planned EV releases. I have my eye on the BZ4X slated for mid-2022.

IF they provide wireless CarPlay, of course. Which is a bit of an ask for Toyota.
 
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The only three American car companies are Ford, GM, and Tesla.

Some people would list Stellantis as a fourth American car company, but that's silly - it's a merger between an Italian company and a French company that has a Dutch headquarters. Chrysler was acquired, plain and simple - the company that acquired it (and subsequently merged with another) cannot argue that it is American.
While you’re all arguing about how Dodge or Jeep isn’t American, I’ll be out embarrassing the Bronco with my 392 Wrangler one day and smoking a Mustang with my Challenger Demon the next.
 
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I just don't see why Apple would want to enter into that business. Maybe if they partner with someone, but even then I don't think the benefits outweigh the hassle. Face it, Apple likes to control everything end to end are they really going to be happy with that type of situation... I'd rather see them go into some other business like energy (renewables, storage or even production) or communications (cell and/or satellite), or get more into home automation/efficiency.
I could see them going in as "transportation-as-a-service". Basically Uber but with self-driving cars. All of the interaction would be through Apple devices or apps.
 
Not sure about anyone else, but I’d pay an automaker more to have a vehicle that is unique and doesn’t share a “platform” with any other vehicle.
Platforms are incredibly expensive to develop and manufacture and they are designed to last for years, even up to a decade or slightly more depending on how often the vehicle is refreshed and technology advances. If Toyota has a solid EV platform that Apple can take advantage of (packaging, safety, reliability, ease of extension for different models) then Apple should take advantage of the economy of scale that Toyota offers them. If Apple is smart they won’t suddenly get a case of NIH syndrome, which will definitely delay an Apple EV for at least the next 10 years, if it ever comes out.
 
It makes sense. Tesla has out appled apple when it comes to cars. Ordering a Tesla is like ordering an iphone. I will never go to another car dealer again. Apple is the only one who can really challenge Tesla. So hearing they’re back to designing an electric car again makes me happy.
 
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I’d love for Apple to come up with great batterie, but involving LG is a bad idea, considering the GM Bolt burni cars due to LG batteries disaster
Where did you get that information? LG makes great batteries. Tesla uses them too. Bolt's burning in garages was more likely a GM problem, not an LG problem.
 
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Toyota - the company that excels in making possibly some of the the worst looking cars.
 
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