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Where did you get that information? LG makes great batteries. Tesla uses them too. Bolt's burning in garages was more likely a GM problem, not an LG problem.
They already identified the issue as a folded separator and torn anode tabs in the battery. Hyundai already performed a recall last year for LG batteries.
 
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IF even true, I wonder if this is the same thing as with Motorola phone/iPod - let 'em mess it up first and then do it better a few years later.
They are 100% taking a similar, proven, approach. At some point, they will manufacture their own. But at launch, it makes zero sense (or cents) to do so. Partnering with someone allows Apple to get in the game, learn, master. That’s their formula.
 
I'm a Toyota/Lexus fan and frankly that's the only cars I bother looking at now-a-days. Ol' reliable is the name of the game.
I’d put Honda right up there. I’ve never had any reliability issues with Honda’s and I think their resale value is very similar to Toyota’s.
 
Well Toyota is much much better than Hyundai

I own a 2007 Camry Hybrid and a 2000 Toyota 4 Runner and Love them. Had a 2007 Prius also.

Toyota goes forever if you take care of it.
As a master tech, automotive instructor and writer, I would disagree. Hyundai/KIA have some very good product and their reliability has come up to Japanese levels. They have had some issues (a few models with bad engines) but so has Toyota.
 
The same Toyota that is trying to slow down electrification of vehicles because they went all in on Hydrogen?
No, it’s the company that makes some of the most reliable vehicles on the road and understands multiple energy and fuel solutions will still be required in the future.

Hybrid vehicles are still part electric, and Toyota has easily put more hybrids on the road than any other car manufacturer.. and their hybrid batteries have proven to be very reliable, too.

As it stands today, even Europe EV sales are less than 8% of new vehicles sold, which means over 90% of new cars sold in the continent were 100% gas powered. North American EV adoption is way worse. So while it’s great that states like California want to pass laws banning gas powered vehicle sales in 10 years, and these car companies are all making pledges to go 100% EV, there doesn’t seem to be enough focus on how we’re actually going to get there.
 
I agree. Toyota has one the worst UI / electronics interface but their quality and reliability is top tier. I think it's a much better match than Hyundai / LG.
Agree. And they've also been extremely slow to roll out CarPlay. The Lexus GX has been using the essentially the same, laggy, outdated interface for over a decade (and that interface unfortunately includes most A/C controls) and did not roll out CarPlay until the 2022 model. Would be inexcusable on a $70k SUV if the vehicle itself wasn't so damn reliable (which, fortunately for Toyota/Lexus, it is).

That said, I would be first in line for an Apple/Toyota/Lexus partnered EV SUV as long as it's under 6 figures.
 
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Toyota has no interest currently in Full EV's. I call no go on this. This would be the reverse of the Toyota/BMW relationship with BMW building the Supra on the M4 chassis with some financial backing from Toyota.

No way Toyota is building EV's for Apple in 2 years in Toyotas own plants.
 
IF even true, I wonder if this is the same thing as with Motorola phone/iPod - let 'em mess it up first and then do it better a few years later.

I’m not so sure that a half assed product flies these days - just look at the HomePod.
 
A number of car manufacturers are pulling out of Europe to focus on their main plants in their home countries which means there will be a number of ready made, ready to go car plants that Apple could use without affecting any of the car manufacturers production runs (something everyone of them appeared to be concerned about).

If the car manufacturers are stopping their productions run in Europe, it's not going to affect them if Apple was to take over one of the production plants because if they didn't all that would happen is the plant gets bulldozed down.
 
I’d put Honda right up there. I’ve never had any reliability issues with Honda’s and I think their resale value is very similar to Toyota’s.

Honda's have the same reliability and resale as Toyota's. I think materials used in Honda are nicer (e.g. padded leather vs hard plastics).
 
Reuters has previously reported that Apple is developing a new battery design that has the potential to "radically" reduce the cost of batteries and increase the vehicle's range.
This sounds good, but it would be nice if this also decreases charging times. Going cross country and spending half of the trip charging the vehicle doesn't sound very fun.

Also, if Apple could introduce an open standard universal charger that other companies would get on board, that would be nice.

Toyota goes forever if you take care of it.
Yup, I have a 1991 SW20 Turbo, still going strong.

My MR2 is my avatar:
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I said a while ago that I could see Apple partnering with an auto manufacturer for the "Apple Car" and was quickly bashed about it. I thing that building the car this way makes more sense, I am going to continue to say that Apple will not mass produce a vehicle until I am sitting in one.

You should find and bookmark that post and return to those who bashed you when the car is launched.
 
While you’re all arguing about how Dodge or Jeep isn’t American, I’ll be out embarrassing the Bronco with my 392 Wrangler one day and smoking a Mustang with my Challenger Demon the next.

How dare you put joy of driving above car nationalism!
 
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I just don’t see anyone doing it better than Tesla.
Sure, apple might come out with a nice $100k ultra luxury car, but anyone can do that now. But no one to just going to leap frog Tesla in AI auto drive arena very easily.

I mean Siri is still a bit of a hot mess.
They could if Apple cracks the battery problem. Elon keeps saying Apple can’t do it. But if Apple does it, which they are known for solving innovative problems like this from theory to practicality they will be a strong competitor for Tesla indeed.
 
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I can't even get CarPlay in my 2018 Toyota CH-R, but Toyota is going to make an entire Apple Car?
 
I just don’t see anyone doing it better than Tesla.
Sure, apple might come out with a nice $100k ultra luxury car, but anyone can do that now. But no one to just going to leap frog Tesla in AI auto drive arena very easily.

I mean Siri is still a bit of a hot mess.
Really?
Tesla’s look bland, they lack any detail where the grill should be, inside it is just empty space. Nothing there to make you feel warm during night time or winter.
The battery tech they claim to have is tech that everyone else already has.
They keep delaying, cancelling, and uninstalling features of the car when they can work it correctly, or it doesn’t comply with various laws.

Every manufacturer is coming out with their own cars, in Europe at least you will only be able to buy electric cars from as soon as 2030.
The Model 3 was supposed to compete with a BMW or Mercedes, and you can buy both BMW and Mercedes for far less, including on lease deals. Here in the U.K. it was initially supposed to cost £30k for a Model 3. The cost of it is now closer to £40k, a AMG Line Mercedes A Class for example can be bought for £30k, less if you want a lower spec. The lease deal can be had between £250-£350 per month. The lease deal on a Tesla Model 3 is between £450-£700.

Rivian look like they are about to make much better cars and have signed a deal with Amazon to supply them with vans, so they aren’t really going anywhere.

There is nothing really about a Tesla that is any better than any other decent car on the road, they are just the Toyota Prius of their age. A car that someone buys so they look like they car about the environment.
 
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