I switched over to a Nexus 5 because of how crashy iOS 7 is on my 5S. It's terrible. I may switch back to the iPhone in time but I wanted to see how life was on the other side.
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Apple Reportedly Negotiating with Carriers for $100 Price Increase on iPhone 6
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I switched over to a Nexus 5 because of how crashy iOS 7 is on my 5S. It's terrible. I may switch back to the iPhone in time but I wanted to see how life was on the other side.
Judging by the recent Apple info we have learned recently this would a crazy move surely? Apple said themselves they are losing ground to handsets with bigger screens, and lower cost, and have a lot of work to do to turn it around.
I enjoy my iPhone, its my smartphone of choice. However I would always consider a rival when contemplating cost, ease of use, features, etc.
For example, even if the new iPhone does have a bigger screen, there's a high likelihood that it will be a lower resolution that the Galaxy S5's screen (which is of a VERY high quality).
Apple have come to a time when they really need to start taking things to the next level, for me a lot rides on the outcome of the iPhone 6 and the iWatch, two products which will decide if I'm likely to stay in the Apple camp.
I enjoy my iPhone, its my smartphone of choice. However I would always consider a rival when contemplating cost, ease of use, features, etc.
For example, even if the new iPhone does have a bigger screen, there's a high likelihood that it will be a lower resolution that the Galaxy S5's screen (which is of a VERY high quality).
Apple have come to a time when they really need to start taking things to the next level, for me a lot rides on the outcome of the iPhone 6 and the iWatch, two products which will decide if I'm likely to stay in the Apple camp.
I think the source may be confusing the two different phones that are rumored to be launched sometime this year. I could see the larger version of the iPhone costing $100 more. But at this point, I don't see them changing the price of their base model.
They are complaining about subsidies because the market has been pushed in new directions by TMobile in the US which is hurting their previously colossal profits. In order to protect these profit margins they are coming up with new ideas to increase the profit on plans. Subsidising phones is a big cost to the carriers and an easy win if they can get rid of this expense. Don't expect plan prices to come down much though if they do end subsidies, after all that's where their next growth in profits is coming from
From this artivcle I take it that Apple wants to increase the wholesale price of the phone by $100 while keeping the $199 price point for consumers. Otherwise there would be nothing for the carriers to complain about. If it is the case that wholesale cost is increasing by this much it must mean that the new phone is decent step up from the current version so its going to be interesting to see what they have done with it.
Absolutely agree that I think this Apple trying to take back $100 profit per handset from the carriers and not consumers. Apple quite possibly think the carriers are getting rich at their and consumers' expense.
Misek probably has been quite reliable in his notes to high net worth clients and Jefferies' traders. With his free, publicly disseminated blatherings for the blogosphere, not so much:
http://m.cultofmac.com/cultofmac/#!...ons-from-peter-misek,511bec52d7fc7b56702ac352
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He might be one-armed, poor guy, while the vast majority of us humans have 2 arms. We've learned to involve both in just about everything we want to do (which is probably why we have 2). You should see the screens on the phones the octopi are using. WOW!
Apple comes along and spins 3.5" as the "perfect" size and rationalizes that- in part- with the one-handed use argument (which, of course, doesn't carry over to the marketing spin in selling iPads or iPad Minis) and "we" swallow that like candy.
Then Apple launches the 4" screen as the new "perfect" size and we swallow that like candy too, even if beforehand "we" spun "they would never", "fragmentation", "abomination" and all such typical stuff.
Soon Apple will roll out the 4.7" and maybe the 5+ inch as the newest "perfect". And if the one-handed use part of the spin to rationalize that perfection will no longer apply, they'll just drop that bullet from the spin. Like all such spin, such bullets are only important when they support some differentiation thrust. In this case, Apple wanted to spin why smaller screens were better than bigger screens and that was one such point. So naturally, "we" run with it and argue it to no end- even make up relatively odd scenarios where it applies- right up until Apple drops that punch or spins something else and then "we" will go right with them.
I use both hands on an Apple keyboard to type this response. I use one hand on the keyboard and one on a mouse to review it. 2 hands on an iPad mini works just fine… even when on a train (and all such rationalized scenarios). The one-handed argument will just end as soon as Apple rolls out a phone that doesn't support it and they drop it from their spin. And then the crowd will flip with Apple and "shut up and take my money", "how did we ever get by with those small screens" etc chorus will rain upon us all.
And almost no one will have to buy new pants with huge pockets.
Personally, I'm so excited about the rumor of it getting even thinner… because we all know how much thin brings to the table (one armed or not). Woohoo! Also
(very much so and mostly for the same reasoning)
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"iPhone 6 is shaping up to be 2014's blockbuster handset"
According to who and based on what? Unsubstantiated rumors?
"Carriers realize that the iPhone 6 will likely be the only headline-worthy high-end phone launched this year "
Really? The HTC and Samsung phones haven't gotten headlines?
If the iPhone 6 is an iterative update + a bigger screen - that $100 "premium" seems a bit much.
Almost as if (I know they are not) saying - ok - we'll give you a bigger screen finally - but you're going to pay a premium for it.
Conversely - and I say this completely tongue in cheek - Samsung should add the iPhone 6 to their lawsuit stating that Apple copied their larger screen and if it sells well, Samsung lost out on $100 per device
According to who and based on what? Unsubstantiated rumors?
"Carriers realize that the iPhone 6 will likely be the only headline-worthy high-end phone launched this year "
Really? The HTC and Samsung phones haven't gotten headlines?
If the iPhone 6 is an iterative update + a bigger screen - that $100 "premium" seems a bit much.
Almost as if (I know they are not) saying - ok - we'll give you a bigger screen finally - but you're going to pay a premium for it.
Conversely - and I say this completely tongue in cheek - Samsung should add the iPhone 6 to their lawsuit stating that Apple copied their larger screen and if it sells well, Samsung lost out on $100 per device
A 5" screen is the sweet spot. Any larger and it's a tad ridiculous. Having been playing with a Nexus 5 I don't know why Apple chose to stretch the screen that way.He might be one-armed, poor guy, while the vast majority of us humans have 2 arms. We've learned to involve both in just about everything we want to do (which is probably why we have 2). Apple comes along and spins 3.5" as the "perfect" size and rationalizes that- in part- with the one-handed use argument (which, of course, doesn't carry over to the marketing spin in selling iPads or iPad Minis) and "we" swallow that like candy.
Then Apple launches the 4" screen as the new "perfect" size and we swallow that like candy too, even if before hand "we" spun "they would never", "fragmentation", "abomination" and all such typical stuff.
Soon Apple will roll out the 4.7" and maybe the 5+ inch as the newest "perfect". And if the one-handed use part of the spin to rationalize that perfection will no longer apply, they'll just drop that bullet from the spin. Like all such spin, such bullets are only important when they support some differentiation thrust. In this case, Apple wanted to spin why smaller screens were better than bigger screens and that was one such point. So naturally, "we" run with it and argue it to no end- even make up relatively odd scenarios where it applies- right up until Apple drops that punch or spins something else and then "we" will go right with them.
I use both hands on an Apple keyboard to type this response. I use one hand on the keyboard and one on a mouse to review it. 2 hands on an iPad mini works just fine even when on a train (and all such rationalized scenarios). The one-handed argument will just end as soon as Apple rolls out a phone that doesn't support it and they drop it from their spin. And then the crowd will flip with Apple and "shut up and take my money", "how did we ever get buy with those small screens" etc will chorus will rain upon us.
And almost no one will have to buy new pants with huge pockets.
The only way I could see this being true is if the base model 4.7" one was $199 and the base model 5.5" model was $299. That would justify the extra $100.
Starting prices and memory sizes... You heard it here first, folks.
$0 - 8gb iPhone 6c (very few colors)
$99 - 16gb iPhone 6c
$199 - 16gb iPhone 6 w/ 4.7 inch screen
$299 - 32gb iPhone 6 w/ 5.5 inch screen
$0 - 8gb iPhone 6c (very few colors)
$99 - 16gb iPhone 6c
$199 - 16gb iPhone 6 w/ 4.7 inch screen
$299 - 32gb iPhone 6 w/ 5.5 inch screen
I also have a N5 and love it. Only thing is though I think that it actually IS too big. I think the way they designed it could have been better to accommodate the increased screen size while making it comfortable in the hand (like the HTC M8). My main daily driver is my 5S still but I have an N5 I use to keep up with the industry and I must say at many many times where iOS 7 has just been awful I've thought about making the N5 the daily.
If the N5 was the same size as the Moto X then I think it would have become my daily phone already. That's why I've been excited about Apples new 4.7" model; it would be a perfect size. However if they do increase the base model by $100 then I'm officially no longer an iPhone user. iOS 7 was bad enough with all of it's bugs and UI usability issues. Apple at this point needs to get over themselves, stop saying that they are better, and actually BE better.
This has probably been posted already but perhaps the price increase means that the iPhone will be available in 32, 64 and 128GB sizes now. If that is the case, there is still cheaper storage options.
Though at this point, I really don't think Apple should raise the price for this reason alone. The $100 price jumps in storage tiers have always been a load of BS. Of course I always get the biggest one anyway.
Though at this point, I really don't think Apple should raise the price for this reason alone. The $100 price jumps in storage tiers have always been a load of BS. Of course I always get the biggest one anyway.
I can't even tell anymore when people are being sarcastic and when they really mean this.
What kind of empty life needs the boost of a more exclusive cell phone?
The increase price is justified because the most pricy component of an iphone is the display, this will be increase and cover with sapphire glass so for the same profit they need to increase
And dont forget this device will be a bundle with the iwatch..so
And dont forget this device will be a bundle with the iwatch..so
If your time is frozen and iOS 5 is adequate to you. We're talking about a premium phone where being adequate isn't the right description.
The phone costs considerably more to make. Of course they want to raise the price. Those sapphire and display plants cost big money and need to have capital recovery.
Apple already knows iPhone 6 will be a blockbuster because their customers are carriers, not end users. They buy the phones outright from Apple and have already shared purchase plans to assist with manufacturing planning.
A lot of dealers were stuck with extended inventories of iPhone 5C for longer than expected. Now sold through.
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Apple already knows iPhone 6 will be a blockbuster because their customers are carriers, not end users. They buy the phones outright from Apple and have already shared purchase plans to assist with manufacturing planning.
A lot of dealers were stuck with extended inventories of iPhone 5C for longer than expected. Now sold through.
Rocketman
yeah, I get that. it wil come down to how different in price the devices are. If Apple goes up to $750 for the 4.7" iPhone 6 (assuming thats the phone) and the competition is still at $650, or lower (Nexus and MotoX for example). Apple is going to have to do something to WOW people. Just an increase in size this time around I don't think will do it. And generally, MOST people aren't going to know the difference between Saphire glass and gollirra glass. They're just going to know. "Glass is Glass, both phones have Glass, why should i pay $100 for that".
but I do understand that Often when iPhones are involved, there's a psychological aspect and not just a pragmatic dollar and cost decision. Sometimes I know I have a hard time applying the emotional aspect of the attachment to a brand as I just don't understand loyalty to corporations and the emotional attachment. I'm always willing to try Every single brand and product if i Can just so i can have a knowledgeable background on what I talk about, and often forget many others don't care to be as knowledgeable..