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All those Apple "Fanboys" don't want to read this article! To them this is the BEST OS to date from Apple. Guess the truth hurts. IOS 13 has been a complete sh{#show and looks like it will continue for another 7+ months.

Also, WHY WAIT for IOS 14 to implement these testing strategies??!? Apple, haven't you put your users through enough BS with IOS13? If you were actually serious, the change would happen TODAY!

And to the gentleman above DEFENDING apple because it is such a "Big" company? Cmon man......... enough already

The fact that you keep writing "IOS" says everything I need to know.

iOS 13 is amazing on my devices, but I haven't upgraded to Catalina yet due to the loss of my beloved Dashboard, and the Mail nightmares.
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And the Finder still doesn't auto-size columns to display entire file names in spite of huge screens on iMacs.

Finder has had strange, dare I say "broken", window management for several versions, at least for me.

It never remembers my resized window preferences. A new window always opens at a default size. Super annoying. But after 6 years, maybe it's a corrupt setting on my system. Who knows?
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I was just thinking about this when I got an update for Google Maps that added cool features. Realizing that if I want an update to add a cool features to Apple Maps. I have to wait an entire year and it might not even be that great. Like why can’t Apple just update things and add features when they are available? That would be so much easier than this a yearly release where we get a few new features and 1 million different bugs

Yup! Apple needs to separate their apps from the OS!

Why should we need to wait for an OS update just to get fixes for Mail? Just issue a Mail.app update, right? But no...
 
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I use to really like iOS mail app but it’s so bad since iOS 13. It’s very buggy and I hate it now.
 
But why did it take them this long to see their method was bad ?
It’s a trade-off. People were clamoring for the existence of iPadOS, the new camera features in iOS, SideCar, etc. for years. Apple clearly bit off more than they could chew this year, but another ‘iOS 12’ year would have brought complaints that ”Apple doesn’t innovate anymore.”
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Too little, too late. I have friends who are seriously contemplating switching to Android now after iOS 13 disaster.

You can spend a decade building a reputation, and it can be taken away in minutes.
Except Android is a mess. There’s no guarantee when you’ll get updates.
 
I've had few, if any issues with iOS 13. Same with my wife with an older iPhone. The public betas were an issue. Issue enough that I probably won't participate in the next round of public beta testing, for either iOS or OSX.

Something is awry on the software side, but I can't put my finger on it from an organizational standpoint. Turn over in staff? The staleness of a recurring project? Lack of input from a management level?

Could it be that Tim Cook's time at Apple is coming to it's inevitable end soon? This would leave staff un motivated and without focus and direction. Often issues found within organizations when large shifts take place at the top. People become distracted. Sometimes lacking security they once found in their current position. It effects performance, and on projects that run on this many devices, the smallest of errors shine through like beacons in the dark.

iOS 13 and Catalina both had the feel they were "limping" across the finish line. Get it done. Done just good enough to say it was done. The next guy will change it all around anyway. It's the sense I got from the hardware side about two years ago.

In the end, the people that code this stuff are. People. They have families, and lives and car payments and such. Change can be crushing, transformative, or both. Depending on the person or the organization.

When the form that change takes, the direction it will go, and the impact it will have is uncertain it eventually effects the organization as a whole.

Good change spreads like pollinated seeds at just the right time. Bad, or uncertain change spreads like the 1918 Flu Pandemic. With predictable outcomes from both.

Apple is a "wait and see" organization. But it is interesting. The culture has more impact here than on just about any other large US corporation of equal scale. Think IBM, MSFT, or AMZN...
 
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I said it ever since 2012(?) that macOS releases cannot be annual because too many “features” are added just for marketing, current bugs don’t get fixed, only bugs in the “new features” are fixed (sometimes) and then the core is slowly rotting away. Now this same problem is happening to iOS.

I can’t believe Apple are only realising this now... it seems like such an obvious issue. This new “build all features at the start and only switch them on when they’re ready” strategy is welcomed, but it’s what other software engineers have been doing for years??

Just for example, Preview.app is as buggy as it was in 2010. When you add so many markup and/or text selection, a small PDF turn into a storage monster, sometimes becoming a 100MB+ file. It's sad that Apple didn't invest on Preview, which is a "Pro" app for serious readers and students.
 
H-1B are bad. Hire high-quality American men and women. Much better at thinking different and designing complex systems.
 
Good news.

iOS is an immensely complex piece of software, it needs immense effort in debugging.

Possible, but each part of the system is worked on by a small team that is supposed to be responsible for testing their own part. The bugs we are seeing are isolated to specific functionality, which means the software engineers either do not have the skill to properly test or were not given the time.

This new process does not address either of these issues, it only gives Apple a switch to turn off when problems arise. I call this an epic fail even before its used. Without other changes it is just another marketing solution from Apple for what is a tech problem.
 
And why did it take them this long to see their Butterfly keyboard is bad ?
And why did it take them this long to see people want more than 16GB ?
And why did it take them this long to see people need more horsepower and vlid cooling ?

So why does it take them so long to do anything ?
I think you should write a sternly written letter to Tim Cook and get back with us on the reply
 
OS X Catilina still has issues running multiple monitors! Unable to use multiple monitors is a significant problem, and I'm surprised it is not advertised and all over the Apple news channels. I would not have upgraded to Catalina if I knew there were a definite possibility dual displays would not function, I'm unable to use them daily. I have a 2017 MacBook Pro, and the two USB-C cables to the displays worked flawlessly until I upgraded to Catilina. How many other people are having problems running multiple monitors with OS X Catilina??
 
Drop POP, it's old and limited!

How often do you restart?

Could Safari be pausing media due to its energy-saving feature? Is the browser in the background when this happens? Is the video visible on screen?

1. I should be using IMAP or something else? Will it cause a fire? What do the millennials use?? I'm so behind the times.

2. Not that often, so not a huge deal.

3. The vid pausing happens when Safari is active window and video is visible. Thinking it might be a bug w/Ghostery and embedded YT videos.
 
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“Apple has also considered delaying some iOS 14 features until 2021”

Again? They need to get their stuff together and put less focus on emojis.
 
what's the point of 3 month beta testing when that's not even long enough, wow apple wow
 
I wrote a post in the Mac Pro forum questioning how Phil Schiller (and his org) seems to always be let off the hook. Seems to me the software release cycle at Apple is absolutely driven by marketing. Driven by the need to have a big reveal at WWDC and again in the fall when new phones are announced. That’s a problem as it forces the software teams to announce and release things before they’re ready.

Forces the software team to announce? I believe it was on some podcast where Craig Frederighi pointed out that they set out features for the next iteration if it's not ready. I can't recall which podcast... maybe Gruber or when he was on MacStories podcast.

iOS 12 wasn't a big reveal.. it focused on performance. This year they added more features compared to the previous year. We are all frustrated with how buggy iOS 13 is... but at least they are trying to fix it. It'll be worst if they left alone.. and waited until iOS 14 to address concerns.
 
I haven’t heard of any ios 14 features so I’m a bit worried what they would delay - it already sounded like iOS 14 was going to be boring
 
I would like to see Apple clean up what I consider their biggest mess. It's 3 years out, so they should have time to plan for it.

iOS16.0 released the same time as
macOS 16.0
watchOS 16.0
iPadOS 16.0
Xcode 16.0
TVOS 16.0

Any OS that is at a lower number automatically jumps to the new number (ie there will never be watchOS 11.0 or whatever).

Every year from then on, all OS get a number upgrade, with .1 and .1.1 added as needed.

No more Xcode 12 works with iOS13, macOS 10.15, watch os6.0, TVOS (I don't even know), iPadOS 1.0
 
They're just reactionary is all. They didn't make any move until after there was a massive outcry about it. If they start doing these things beforehand and stave off any issues/outcry, then we can call it a culture shift
Bingo. Apple doesn't respond to customers who are entrenched in the Apple ecosystem without a way to escape (they're a captive audience). Apple is listening to those who have LEFT and spending their money elsewhere.
 
Seems you do not use your iOS device much :oops: a lot of disorder here and there and battery crisis!:rolleyes:

I have an iPhone 8 and an iPad 2017 and use both several hours a day. I also update them as soon as updates are released. I honestly don't remember having any issues with either at all.
 
Thank God. If Mr Apple wants me to buy flags I can buy them from pound land in London and sell them to him for £1 million ;-)
 
It is no more 2007-2011 era where Steve Job consciously controlled the fragmentation of its iOS devices probably due to challenges in the Software development and testing where various form factors, features, hardware variations (eg: No 3D touch in some, while it has to support Touch ID while integrating Face ID in its new OS for Apps).Right now Apple probably grew in terms of product portfolio in iOS like Android in 2012-13 where it had to support wide variety of OEMs which eventually slowed down software updations in the Android World, which is probably happening in the iOS world now.

But Apple has the unique advantage of controlling its ecosystem that should allow them to use Machines Learning tools to automate testing process by mining user behaviour in its ecosystem and leverage regression scenarios proactively and allow developers to generate test scripts on the fly. I am sure Apple probably has much better tools to address the scenario that I have described but that should drastically improve test coverage in this highly complex OS and significantly reduce the cycle time for testing and bug fixing during the development process, in fact using AI & ML test cases, scenarios, test data shall be developed in large varying volume to ensure higher level of quality.
 
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