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Apple Reportedly Overhauling Its Software Development Process Following Buggy Release of iOS 13

where is the iSheep that were praising Apple for releasing fixes so quickly?😄😄
Even Apple recognize this is not acceptable.

Joke aside, the Apple software is really defragmented. It doesn't have the stable+united feel it used to have. Each app seems like it was designed by another company and its far from the intuitive design they used to have. In the past, Apple software really had this thing where if you didn't know anything you can still find your way around the software and do things with it. Now I find myself looking up stuff online on "how to..." things.
 
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Plutonius said:
Apple makes its money through hardware and services (it gives its OS updates for free).

As such, its OS update schedule is driven by the yearly new hardware release.
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New PCs come out literally every single month, if not every week; and that does not drive Microsoft's schedule in any manner whatsoever. Apple too unveils hardware more than once per year.

I'm an independent software developer myself, with 21 years experience. I always tell my clients the same as I would suggest Apple do: deliver quality software, services and updates, when they are actually vetted and thoroughly tested - quality over quantity. I would rather overdeliver than overpromise. I set expectations that what I will do, will work, and work properly, according to what I am being paid to deliver. I will also tell you when I can get it done. Tell me what you want and when you want it. If it's reasonable, I'll deliver it. If not, I won't take the job.
 
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MacBH928 said:
where is the iSheep that were praising Apple for releasing fixes so quickly?😄😄
Even Apple recognize this is not acceptable.

Joke aside, the Apple software is really defragmented. It doesn't have the stable+united feel it used to have. Each app seems like it was designed by another company and its far from the intuitive design they used to have. In the past, Apple software really had this thing where if you didn't know anything you can still find your way around the software and do things with it. Now I find myself looking up stuff online on "how to..." things.
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Totally agree with this, nowhere near as user friendly as it used to be, i also end up looking up how to do things online.

I am really worried after all these updates Apple still cant sort out their own email app.
 
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I like the iOS updates each year, and 13 had a lot of stuff packed into it.

What concerns me more is the bugginess of Catalina - I'd be ok if they just went to every 1.5 to 2 years. I love new features, but it feels like there is this crazy pressure to 'do something' each year, and this time we got a little burned by it, and so did the engineering teams....
 
Z3man said:
Totally agree with this, nowhere near as user friendly as it used to be, i also end up looking up how to do things online.

I am really worried after all these updates Apple still cant sort out their own email app.
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I have stopped using their email very long back, using Outlook!

Typing this message in an Android mobile gives me far better experience than typing my previous message in MR using my iPhone 11.

Infact I am using Mate 20 Pro which shamelessly mimicking iOS doing far better job than iOS in terms of usability.
 
Lounge vibes 05 said:
Just stop with the huge yearly updates. Just add features when there ready. Maybe announce a year long roadmap of features, but slowly add them over a year, instead of trying to rush everything for September. Also, put macOS back on a 18 to 30 month upgrade cycle
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Totally agree. Craig Whats-His-Face is a terrible software devel manager. A rank amateur on his best day.

And flags? For God’s sake, I worked for Countrywide Home Loans (later Bank of America) as a liason between the software guys and the business teams and even they employed flag-driven coding and testing since the late 90’s. And Apple is just finding out about this? Since when does a mortgage company have better development standards and procedures than Apple?
 
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Jumping on the band wagon here but reading features throughout the year when they’re ready and not one big update per year would be ideal.

iOS 12 was boring but it worked great, iOS 13 has been a bumpy ride and releases every few days isn’t terrible in my opinion but it screams unorganised.

Whilst I’m generally happy with iOS 13, Catalina was a train wreck and even now seems like beta level stuff. The actual public beta of Catalina pre-release was awful.

C’mon Apple; I want you to succeed you make awesome stuff, but right now though you’re clearly winging it.
 
Lounge vibes 05 said:
Just stop with the huge yearly updates. Just add features when there ready. Maybe announce a year long roadmap of features, but slowly add them over a year, instead of trying to rush everything for September. Also, put macOS back on a 18 to 30 month upgrade cycle
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Yes, yes, yes. Mac OS is the one platform that isn't going to grab attention in mainstream news; just release is every 18-24 months.
 
Still trying to recover from corrupted data resulting from bugs in the initial releases of 13 and Catalina and from interactions between the two that resulted from unsynchronized releases.
 
Over time software builds up complexity. Then developers come along and attempt to clean things up. That inevitably leads to bugs.

The other side of this is that documentation, if there is any, gets more complicated over time, making it difficult to write to whatever spec you have.

Lastly, QA needs test cases. Without good docs you can't make good test cases. Really, if the QA testbed was better a lot of these bugs would have been caught before shipping.

It could be that the "bad agile" methodology has taken over - you know, the one that says "ship fast, break things." That works great for web apps, but isn't so great for an OS release.
 
I see an unusual amount of lousy UI design in 13 and Catalina. Looks like UI engineering processwere compromised, perhaps in an attempt to meet shipping deadlines. Do we call these UI issues bugs? Whatever we call them they have certainly contributed to the worst software releases I’ve ever seen from Apple, and I go back to the original Mac.
Using flags might help, but it’s much more than that. Looks like integrated design reviews and integration testing have been compromised.
I also agree with previous comments of reported bugs existing for many releases not being fixed.
 
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