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buggy, and still better than Windows!

I agree with this statement. My agreement is that the foundation, Unix, is much better, the UI is much better, the consistent shortcuts is much better, and the included software is much better. However, due to slipping quality it is getting closer to Windows. And, to MSFT‘s credit, Windows runs on a far wider array of devices. Apple has an extremely small set of configurations to worry about. Apple sells the interconnectedness of its devices, but is doing a poorer job of making that work properly.
 
It seems someone finally woke from their 2-year nappy. Reminder: stability and security (lack of bugs) are *the* priority features; everything else can wait. Can ya hear me now???
 
ye apple mmas 1.0 was terrible an lead to dagerous situatione, the person that was guided unto a runway ... -hold on how many things had to fail for this to happen
1: applwe maps having terruible nmap data - no ecuses apple yo did bad here
2: securety at arport :: who let an unknown vehicle access (aprons/ramps)/taxyways/runways - fix security asap
3: driver stop following the satnav blindly esp when you start seeinng taxyway/runway markings. pull up to the seide and wait for an airport vehicle to escort you out of the area
 
I've heard Apple created this new software development method and they're calling it Agile by Apple and instead of one big release with a waterfall development process they will have iterative releases as pieces are completed

OK, I work with embedded SW in automotive, but most companies I work with use some form of agile and have done for some time.

What can happen with agile, is an over-focus on functionality, leading to reduce quality of testing and reduced design quality.

The design quality you need to adress with re-factoring or sprints / releases that focus on increasing stability and improving quality without adding functionality.

In an environment with continuous integration and automated testing, as other have pointed out, it comes more to your robustness testing. Do spend enough resources on exploring edge cases or stressing the SW.
 
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Just stop with the huge yearly updates. Just add features when there ready. Maybe announce a year long roadmap of features, but slowly add them over a year, instead of trying to rush everything for September. Also, put macOS back on a 18 to 30 month upgrade cycle
I was just thinking about this when I got an update for Google Maps that added cool features. Realizing that if I want an update to add a cool features to Apple Maps. I have to wait an entire year and it might not even be that great. Like why can’t Apple just update things and add features when they are available? That would be so much easier than this a yearly release where we get a few new features and 1 million different bugs
 
I am glad iOS 13 has been flawless for me. I have not upgraded my Mac yet.

I am pretty impressed with how rarely my phone crashes. My prior iPhone crashes more. Hopefully in future they can minimize problems others are having.
 
But why did it take them this long to see their method was bad ?
I was just about to post this. EVERY 2 years this happens. Buggier than normal release follows a much smoother release. Clearly this tic tok thing isnt working with software.

Most AVERAGE people have no idea even half of the changes in iOS 13. They could have simply announced dark mode and some other big thing and called it a day and people would have been happy.

Hell, most AVERAGE people don't even know control center exists after.....idk.....6 years!!!
 
I was just about to post this. EVERY 2 years this happens. Buggier than normal release follows a much smoother release. Clearly this tic tok thing isnt working with software.

Most AVERAGE people have no idea even half of the changes in iOS 13. They could have simply announced dark mode and some other big thing and called it a day and people would have been happy.

Hell, most AVERAGE people don't even know control center exists after.....idk.....6 years!!!

Yeah, Intel had to give up on the tick tock clock. I also agree with you that most folks miss a lot of the detail, but perhaps Apple does that part on purpose. I mean in a way that allows those who tinker with their smartphone to do so, while it still works ok for those that run on default settings without paying much attention. Finding the right balance between these two types is quite an art.
 
Some people here are arguing for less frequent macOS releases, for instance each 18 to 24 months instead of every year. I'm not sure it's a good idea. I already find it frustrating that many iOS features are absent from the macOS platform (e.g. the iMessage app is very poor and minimal on Mac). I would hate to see even less efforts on macOS, and I spend much more time on my computer than on my phone.

I understand there's no magic solution. But let's hope these bugs won't stand in the way of progress.
 
Some thorn-in-my side Catalina bugs I've encountered on my 2014 Mini:

1. Can't resize columns in Mail (POP account).
2. Can't recover a deleted email in Mail using the Undo command.
3. Sometimes can't drag an email to saved folders.
4. Can't drag a Safari favicon to the desktop.
5. YouTube videos pause every nine seconds in Safari. This does not happen in FF.
6. After installing, Catalina deleted my saved sticky notes. Luckily, I was able to pry open the relevant legacy DB file and copy the text. It then proceeded to delete them several times after that.
7. After deselecting the "Reopen windows" option for a restart, noted it is re-selected during subsequent restarts.

Drop POP, it's old and limited!

How often do you restart?

Could Safari be pausing media due to its energy-saving feature? Is the browser in the background when this happens? Is the video visible on screen?
 
Some people here are arguing for less frequent macOS releases, for instance each 18 to 24 months instead of every year. I'm not sure it's a good idea. I already find it frustrating that many iOS features are absent from the macOS platform (e.g. the iMessage app is very poor and minimal on Mac). I would hate to see even less efforts on macOS, and I spend much more time on my computer than on my phone.

I understand there's no magic solution. But let's hope these bugs won't stand in the way of progress.

I agree! Apps like Messages and Calendar are totally neglected on macOS, it's scary!
 
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This is good news. 13.0 was horrible and I jumped to 13.1 ASAP. Now I'm still getting new bugs like the Favorites popup in Safari only taking half the vertical space now on iPad. Super annoying. Worst part is, it's probably a feature & not a bug.
 
And the Finder still doesn't auto-size columns to display entire file names in spite of huge screens on iMacs. You can click a button, but there is no way to set this as the default. Moreover, most error messages are impenetrable to average users becuase programmers are too lazy to get off their fat a$$es and make the messages useful (Does the error indicate a hardware or software fault? Indeed, if it was software, which software? How can it be remedied or worked around?) Fixing bugs is not the only quality control issue - in many ways watching Apple recently has been like amateur hour compared to the stability and utility their systems used to have. I hope they get back to 'it just works'.
 
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