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I find that many technophiles are not really very dialed into the financial aspects of running a large electronic and consumer devices company or the geopolitical forces tech is so subject to. A lot of the comments seem to reflect some level of detachment from economic/business reality. Apple is making the right moves to keep the company as strong as they can given the last few years and the massive economic and geopolitical uncertainty moving forward.

What are you forgetting? ... The economy stinks, there are massive layoffs in all industries and services, supply chains are still shaky, Washington is a circus that just took another massive step into chaos, interest rates are the highest in 15 years, economic indicators point to times getting worse and worse and people are asking why Apple may be altering their plans? It's pretty obvious to me and cutbacks and product delays seem to be a solid decision.

There is also a tendency in these forums to forget the tech community is a very small slice of who Apple targets. First and foremost, they are a consumer electronics company. The vast majority of revenue is generated by products not bought for professional use and those people are slowing and stopping their purchases of nonessential goods and services. It would make no sense for Apple to step out on a limb and risk billions with new product put into a very soft market.

And on a final note and no disrespect towards anyone intended, most of you are relatively young and have never been a part of the workforce and economy during a recession or serious economic pullback. This is what happens when times get tough. Firings, product cutbacks, cancellations, unemployment, etc.

I work in finance, so I’m very aware of the macroeconomic conditions that exist right now. I agree that you’d think Apple would play it safe/not place risky bets in a worsening economy. However, them planning to launch the AR headset, along with all the resources that are going into it (to the point of delaying other products/features), is perhaps Apple’s biggest risk since the Apple Watch. You said, “It would make no sense for Apple to step out on a limb and risk billions with new product put into a very soft market” which I agree with, but that’s exactly what Apple is doing with the AR headset - stepping out on a limb, risking billions.

Also, if Apple is so concerned about the economy, I would think that they would try to make more competitive products to entice people when economic conditions are tougher and there’s more competition for fewer dollars. Yes, playing it safe with what has worked can protect them against some risk, but it’s also risky to play it too safe. Then there’s the question of how much of these products were already planned out this way, to be less competitive offerings? How far in advance can they change the course of their products are known to planned out a couple years in advance?

I understand what you’re getting at though. Perhaps my post was oversimplified. I’m just saying that Apple has appeared to be on a massive upswing over the past few years, but I’m feeling less confident in recent trends in the company over the past year. And yes, I understand a lot of the things I’m not liking can be due to things out of their control (inflation, supply chain issues causing delays, slowing economy, rising interest rates, more difficult globalization).
 
This will prove to be a colossal mistake, IMO. The masses do not want a VR headset, and they’re simply not going to sell well at all. The entire project will have been for naught.
We’ll see. Apple stepped into a small market called smartphones and created a product that sold to the masses.

We’ll see if they do the same with this.
 
At least the usb c AirPods should come together with the iPhone 15..

I am looking forward to the OLED iPads..
 
I agree with this. Since S4/S5 it’s been very incremental changes. Curious to hear what you guys think the Watch could use to make it interesting again.
New sensors, features that attribute to motivating and monitoring once health. Battery Life improvement is also essential.
 
Can’t wait to come back to this comment in a year and see if you’re right. Or…horribly wrong. And suddenly everybody can’t live without AR and those that dismissed it before it began are looked at in the same light as those who said the iPhone would never be a success because it didn’t have a hardware keyboard. Time well tell. Tick tock
Lots of people on these forums were skeptical of the iPod back in 2001. I know because I was here but I had more faith in the iPod. I hope that I’m wrong, I don’t like when Apple fails.
 
I want to replace my 2018 iPad Pro only because it’s 64GB. I was hoping to upgrade this year but I will wait for the 2024 OLED model
 
Smartphones disappear into your pockets, jackets and purses

VR/AR devices have almost no chance of becoming even remotely as popular
It’s possible. I don’t know if it’s the future or not.

Maybe Apple will normalize this just as much as using that phone and slipping it in your pocket.

I do not know.

That’s the biggest question surrounding this: isnapple about to completely shape the future with a new product cstoegory?

Or will they get this out and then get back to forward focus on their other devices?

Sounds like 2023 will answer this question.
 
<rant on> While I appreciate the cadence Apple has had, releasing a new minor version every year seems like a waste. We don’t need new phones with the same hardware (which gets a new generation and power saving). To grow an ecosystem, it has to be affordable. No Apple device has truly been affordable, however, they fixed that with what amounts to a lease or 0% loan. That is trading the future. I will no long be buying a new watch - the functions I need are limited and the ecosystem is so USA focused, we never get to see Canada related stuff unless it happens a few years later.

iTunes has been hot garbage for most of its existence. It has lost so much of my music, playlists, and data… on top of losing purchases. I don’t think that we really need all this stuff that a company doesn’t complete its work on. It still hasn’t come close to making Maps useful in Canada more than 25% of the time.

I miss the days of old! You think with that war chest, it could complete those items.

Cheers <rant off>
 
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Global supply chain issues are responsible for a lot of this. I don't expect near-normalcy until at least 2024. But many of us have been calling for Apple to slow down the product refresh cycle - perhaps supply issues will lead them to decide it's a good idea. And yet none of this explains Apple's software issues. Clearly, at some level Apple is being pushed to the limit.

Work from home … or lack there of, rather.
 
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One person's minimal change is another person's fantastic change.
And, another person’s “never owned before”. :) I think sometimes folks forget that there are billions of folks that DON’T own Apple products. And, getting one of those folks to buy something brings in the same amount of money to Apple as selling to someone that has the prior generation in hand. Even if there’s only minor changes from one year to the next, it’s always an easier sale when Apple’s telling the potential customer that what they want to buy was released within the last year.
 
Recycling the S6 again and rebrand it S9. And Apple wonders why sales are going down.
I’ll be surprised if Apple doesn’t update the processor (5nm) for improved battery life. There’s not much more they could do other than going round and/or adding FaceTime. Maybe the addition of a 45mm Apple Watch Ultra with a battery life of 24 hours thanks to the new more efficient processor.
 
I got my AirPods Max immediately when they came out and am still super happy with them thousands of listening hours later. But I also would be super interested to see what an update would bring to the table.

A budget "HomePod Mini"-type version would be a pass from me, but if they really followed up with some of the features from the last AirPods Pro update, I'd probably consider updating. They're on my head easily 30 hours a week.
In addition to the new features from the second generation AirPods Pro, make it lighter, add USB-C and please Apple give it a real case so a third-party case won’t be a necessity.
 


Apple is planning no major updates for its iPad, AirPods, Apple TV, or Apple Watch product lines for 2023, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said today in his latest Power On newsletter.

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Apple is expected to announce its AR/VR headset this spring, and the imminent launch of the headset has seemingly taken the focus away from other products in Apple's portfolio. According to Gurman, no significant updates for the iPad are expected this year, with the closest major update taking place in the first half of 2024 with OLED 11-inch and 13-inch iPad Pros. Gurman says Apple may introduce minor spec bumps for the entry-level iPad, iPad mini, and iPad Air.

For the AirPods lineup, Gurman says not to expect any updates "of note" this year, which could rule out the possibility of an updated version of the AirPods Max making a debut. The AirPods Max is the most outdated product in Apple's AirPods lineup, with rumors suggesting a lighter and more affordable version is in the works.

For the Apple Watch, Gurman says he does not expect major hardware changes this year, except for some minor performance improvements to Apple Watch models. In September, Apple announced the all-new Apple Watch Ultra, so minor updates to that, as well as other models of the lineup, are to be expected. Gurman says Apple has no plans for a new Apple TV in 2023.

Article Link: Apple Reportedly Planning No Major Updates for AirPods, Apple Watch, iPad, or Apple TV in 2023
disappointed about the watch, 8 was not really an update, i have been upgrading each year, first year had not to 8.
 
If you currently have the Apple TV HD, you should definitely upgrade to the 3rd Generation Apple TV 4K like I did over the holidays. I think it’s worth it even if you have the 1st Generation Apple TV 4K.
I have no Apple TV at the moment. I had the 1080p version, then I got the 4K version. But there wasn't quite enough headroom to play 4K blu ray remuxes, so I gave it to a friend thinking there would be an upgraded one coming out eventually. Then the upgraded one did come out and I haven't picked one up yet. I should though. I've been using my Xbox instead but it won't play my blu ray rips like Infuse on Apple TV would, and also I can't use my AirPods on the Xbox.
 
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