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Agreed 100%. Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave. Someone very high up in Apple‘s ranks should probably get fired (their design chief or whatever title Jony Ive held or maybe Tim Cook himself)

Edit: why the dislikes? Apple has obviously lost the ability to innovate
Who is the innovator then? What company is blowing your mind with all their innovative tech these days? Tech is boring across the board now. It's not just Apple. The whole tech world is one big fat YAWN.
 
There will be hardware refreshes - they just won't be very exciting
I'd like to think that over 80% of purchases are based on a schedule, replacing a defective/non-operating product or for a revenue increasing project.
 
The whole tech world is one big fat YAWN.

Especially so since anti-trust never gets enforced anymore and all potential disruptors get gobbled up before they do any actual disruption.

All of the conglomerates are just resting on their laurels, buying up any threats and largely doing "not much".

It's depressing
Tech and innovation should be so much farther along right now
 
Especially so since anti-trust never gets enforced anymore and all potential disruptors get gobbled up before they do any actual disruption.

All of the conglomerates are just resting on their laurels, buying up any threats and largely doing "not much".

It's depressing
Tech and innovation should be so much farther along right now
While I agree with you about the gobbling up and doing nothing part, I'm also not sure tech and innovation should be much farther along. I think people are now so inundated with tech every day that many of innovations don't even register because we're so desensitized. When people complain about a lack of innovation in the tech world, I often wonder what they're expecting? Before the internet, tech was more exciting. Instead of a daily drip, we waited all year for MacWorld to have our minds blown. Now those innovations get parceled out all year long...and, as a result, it's all a lot less exciting.
 
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I bought so many Apple products last year that this year I wasn't planning to get any (Even though trading in the 14+ for the pro Max might be a consideration in the fall, but I doubt it). I just hope for some nice software updates, like apologizing for the up next mistake update they had for Apple TV and improving Apple Music. I've been hoping for Apple Music improvements for years so eventually it will happen, maybe.
 
I'm also not sure tech and innovation should be much farther along.

That's the pernicious thing here
When up and coming things all get squashed, we literally have no idea what could be in the future and certainly not 5-10 years down the line (or more).

Think how the world was in 2006 ... and then iPhone ... and WOW just a few years later
It was literally impossible to see that impact and how much widespread change it set off.

Basically everyone thought it was just a small impact new thing ... "might sell 10 million of them"
Essentially everyone was dead wrong and not even close to how much change that caused.
 
The only thing that I am remotely interested in was Apple Watch. I am still on S4, but since I got it, nothing really seems 'must have', so I continued to use my trusted S4. I guess I will keep it for at least another year or more.
 
Rumor: Apple’s products that were all updated at the very very end of 2022 won’t get upgrades in 2023.
MR Users: Apple is doomed!
Seriously people, getting this mad that AirPods and Apple TV aren’t getting updated?
Both were literally *just* updated in October.

So odd.
It’s not even true anyway because literally in the article Mark says he expects spec bumps to the iPad and iPad Mini.
Also we’re still expecting M2pro and max MBPs, new iMacs, new Mac Pros, new Mac Minis, new iPhones, a new 15 MacBook Air, new bumped watches, possibly new HomePods, all the accessories switching over to USB-C, and *on top* of all of this, the headset.
That’s a lot of products
 
Good. No need to ‘upgrade’ a product for yet more minor features. A lot of these products are hitting diminishing returns anyway, I mean what more can you do to an Apple TV apart from make it cheaper?
Turn it into an all in one Apple TV / atmos soundbar with built in centrestage camera so we can finally FaceTime as a family from the biggest screen in the house instead of us all gathering around an iPhone / iPad.
 
Rumor: Apple’s products that were all updated at the very very end of 2022 won’t get upgrades in 2023.
MR Users: Apple is doomed!
Seriously people, getting this mad that AirPods and Apple TV aren’t getting updated?
Both were literally *just* updated in October.

So odd.
It’s not even true anyway because literally in the article Mark says he expects spec bumps to the iPad and iPad Mini.
Also we’re still expecting M2pro and max MBPs, new iMacs, new Mac Pros, new Mac Minis, new iPhones, a new 15 MacBook Air, new bumped watches, possibly new HomePods, all the accessories switching over to USB-C, and *on top* of all of this, the headset.
That’s a lot of products

I get mixed messages from communities like this. On one hand it's "Apple has way too many products and is turning into the company it was before the Iphone. On the other it's "Why isn't Apple updating products that just got an update a year ago". I have no reason for a headset but I'm sure millions of people would jump at the opportunity. I can't afford to buy apple stuff every year and with the economy and inflation as it is, I have more pressing concerns to worry about like Gas and Food. This is why I'm more excited for software updates. It's like getting a new product without having to pay for it.
 
Apple is expected to announce its AR/VR headset this spring, and the imminent launch of the headset has seemingly taken the focus away from other products in Apple's portfolio. According to Gurman, no significant updates for the iPad are expected this year, with the closest major update taking place in the first half of 2024 with OLED 11-inch and 13-inch iPad Pros. Gurman says Apple may introduce minor spec bumps for the entry-level iPad, iPad mini, and iPad Air.
Could have just said small chance of iPad mini 7 this year. The Air it will skip this year as it was bumped to a M1 last March. I doubt they will bump it to a M2 this year. While there might be some Mac announcements in April, I have my doubts that mixed reality is same time frame. The augmented reality examples shown on the developers pages look like something you could use a iPhone or iPad with, also what would be the source of all this AR content to look at initially is the main question, what is Apple pioneering is what we all want to know?
 
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While I agree with you about the gobbling up and doing nothing part, I'm also not sure tech and innovation should be much farther along. I think people are now so inundated with tech every day that many of innovations don't even register because we're so desensitized. When people complain about a lack of innovation in the tech world, I often wonder what they're expecting? Before the internet, tech was more exciting. Instead of a daily drip, we waited all year for MacWorld to have our minds blown. Now those innovations get parceled out all year long...and, as a result, it's all a lot less exciting.
It’s simple, people want Apple to have an “iPhone like” introduction every year despite the fact that expectations like that cannot realistically be met.
The iPhone was a once in a generation product.
Not a once every five years product.
The only thing comparable to it in apples history is the Apple II and the Macintosh.
Some might say the iPod and the iPad, and they would have a point, but I still think it’s arguable that the societal changes the iPhone brought are leaps and bounds more important than the societal changes brought along by the iPod and the iPad.
Could the VR headset be the next big thing? No idea. But I will say that all of the complaints and criticisms all over the Internet about a product that doesn’t even exist Remind me a lot of the same exact reactions people had to the original iPhone.
 
Isn't this the same excuse from apple anyway? Regardless if they concentrate on Stability things will be broken way after public betas.... moving on
 
I’m sure investors are thrilled about this lol
I am one, and I am thrilled. The future is AR/VR and Apple is doing what it needs to in order to dominate this market. By 2030 the physical phone will be history, and the work computer will be dramatically different. Jobs would be very pleased with Apple skating to where that puck will be.
 
All this to focus on something that is most likely not going to be a hit, I just don’t think there is a market for VR/AR for this to be the next iPod.
Can’t wait to come back to this comment in a year and see if you’re right. Or…horribly wrong. And suddenly everybody can’t live without AR and those that dismissed it before it began are looked at in the same light as those who said the iPhone would never be a success because it didn’t have a hardware keyboard. Time well tell. Tick tock
 
The integrated pulse ox was worth the upgrade alone.

As for static watch tech? Ever followed Swiss watches?

Aside from style adaptions, their basic technology has been static for like a half century.
fyi pulse ox is available on garmin watches for 4 years. follow garmin watches like the fenix, epix, marq, etc. much more funtionality than aw and much more battery life. beside that, i own a tag heuer
 
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Who is the innovator then? What company is blowing your mind with all their innovative tech these days? Tech is boring across the board now. It's not just Apple. The whole tech world is one big fat YAWN.
There's a certain grain of truth to that. The last time my mind was blown was with the 5s. Nobody saw that coming, before that was the iphone 4. Since 2013 things are iterating. In a good way, lots of innovation.
 
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I want an M1 or M2 iPad (Air or Pro) with either 128 or 256 GB, but I’m not paying more than $700 for it.

I was hoping they’d release an M2 Air in March and I’d scoop up an M1 Air. I guess I’ll have to keep waiting.
 
Apple’s direction has taken a concerning turn over the last year. Minimal changes to devices, price hikes, delays, huge number of software bugs and issues, plans for increased advertising within its own software, what am I forgetting?

I will say that there has been some highlights (Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, Apple Watch Ultra, AirPods Pro 2), but the trajectory is not looking great right now. The Apple Silicon transition started with a boom, but now Macs are getting updated less often than the Intel products were. They’re still way better than the Intel products, but it’s still concerning.
I find that many technophiles are not really very dialed into the financial aspects of running a large electronic and consumer devices company or the geopolitical forces tech is so subject to. A lot of the comments seem to reflect some level of detachment from economic/business reality. Apple is making the right moves to keep the company as strong as they can given the last few years and the massive economic and geopolitical uncertainty moving forward.

What are you forgetting? ... The economy stinks, there are massive layoffs in all industries and services, supply chains are still shaky, Washington is a circus that just took another massive step into chaos, interest rates are the highest in 15 years, economic indicators point to times getting worse and worse and people are asking why Apple may be altering their plans? It's pretty obvious to me and cutbacks and product delays seem to be a solid decision.

There is also a tendency in these forums to forget the tech community is a very small slice of who Apple targets. First and foremost, they are a consumer electronics company. The vast majority of revenue is generated by products not bought for professional use and those people are slowing and stopping their purchases of nonessential goods and services. It would make no sense for Apple to step out on a limb and risk billions with new product put into a very soft market.

And on a final note and no disrespect towards anyone intended, most of you are relatively young and have never been a part of the workforce and economy during a recession or serious economic pullback. This is what happens when times get tough. Firings, product cutbacks, cancellations, unemployment, etc.
 
Apple’s direction has taken a concerning turn over the last year. Minimal changes

Apple should redesign the devices every year? Weird take.

price hikes

Macroeconomics


Remember white iPhone 4?

huge number of software bugs and issues,

Not news. Been like that for over a decade.

plans for increased advertising within its own software

The only valid point.
 


Apple is planning no major updates for its iPad, AirPods, Apple TV, or Apple Watch product lines for 2023, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said today in his latest Power On newsletter.

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Apple is expected to announce its AR/VR headset this spring, and the imminent launch of the headset has seemingly taken the focus away from other products in Apple's portfolio. According to Gurman, no significant updates for the iPad are expected this year, with the closest major update taking place in the first half of 2024 with OLED 11-inch and 13-inch iPad Pros. Gurman says Apple may introduce minor spec bumps for the entry-level iPad, iPad mini, and iPad Air.

For the AirPods lineup, Gurman says not to expect any updates "of note" this year, which could rule out the possibility of an updated version of the AirPods Max making a debut. The AirPods Max is the most outdated product in Apple's AirPods lineup, with rumors suggesting a lighter and more affordable version is in the works.

For the Apple Watch, Gurman says he does not expect major hardware changes this year, except for some minor performance improvements to Apple Watch models. In September, Apple announced the all-new Apple Watch Ultra, so minor updates to that, as well as other models of the lineup, are to be expected. Gurman says Apple has no plans for a new Apple TV in 2023.

Article Link: Apple Reportedly Planning No Major Updates For AirPods, Apple Watch, iPad, or Apple TV in 2023
Upgrades to AirPods? They just got upgraded! Gurman is just saying the obvious here..
The iPad though is due to a bigger update, especially after the M2 iPad Pro being basically the same device as the M1 iPad Pro..

Again, do not believe what Gurman is saying. I would call it bu**sh*t
 
That's the pernicious thing here
When up and coming things all get squashed, we literally have no idea what could be in the future and certainly not 5-10 years down the line (or more).

Think how the world was in 2006 ... and then iPhone ... and WOW just a few years later
It was literally impossible to see that impact and how much widespread change it set off.

Basically everyone thought it was just a small impact new thing ... "might sell 10 million of them"
Essentially everyone was dead wrong and not even close to how much change that caused.
I think the issue is one of perspective. I do agree that the big players wield too much power. They can buy up innovative start ups and sideline them or water down their tech. That being said, plenty of that tech would never reach the consumer without the help of big tech to make it affordable and accessible. I won't argue that things are out of balance, but I also feel like there's a lack of perspective at work when it comes to "innovation."

I got my first computer in 1980. I suspect that a lot of people complaining about Apple's "lack of innovation" are younger fans, many of whom became Apple fans because of the iPhone. When I think about the pace of innovation in the 1980s compared to today, you can't even compare the two. The way I see it, tech companies are more innovative than ever, but tech is also more ubiquitous than ever which has ultimately desensitized people. I also think there are periods where innovations are more obvious to the end user.

The early iPhone years was just such a period. Multi-touch radically changed how we interact with our devices. Affordable mobile service made it possible to stay connected. Processor and battery innovations brought it all home. A lot of innovations, many of them outside of Apple's control, coalesced in order for the iPhone to happen. Since then the rate of innovation has only accelerated but we're also completely steeped in tech today (thanks in large part to the iPhone) which makes it very hard to see the forest for the trees. It's completely unrealistic to expect an iPhone-level shift to happen every year or even every decade, but that doesn't mean innovation is dead.
 
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