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This is a friendly reminder that Apple still sells phones with 60 hz screen in 2022/2023. Forget flagships, low end and mid range Android phones have been coming out with 120hz screen for many years now. I love Apple products but I totally understand why some people call Apple customers sheep, lol!
Yup. Even on the “low end” iPhone offerings, it’s not okay that they’re still using 60hz. iPhone used to be the premium phone. Now, it isn’t.
 

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Bring back the S-updates, not every revision needs the next number.
Great idea. For me, the s-updates were always the ones to get, because they kind of had the bugs ironed out.

Also, kill the SE and make it a dedicated new design like the 5C instead if reusing the iphone 6 design for the 7th time (or, even worse, reusing the XR-design as a base for the SE4). It feels like one purpose of using the old design - besides from keeping old assembly lines - is to upsell the more expensive designs to customers. (Which probably nobody at apple will deny, but as we can see with the 14plus, just updating a few internals and upoing the price is going to fly less and less - and increasingly bad for apple's public image)
 
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Just go back to offering last years model (in this case the iPhone 14) on a discount and the latest model in two sizes 🤷🏼‍♂️ like before but I don’t see this happening until the „Pro“ starts flopping too
 
Simplify line up to 2 or 3 new models/variants each year. Offer a regular flagship and a Pro flagship. So iPhone 15 line up will be iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro. If there needs to be 3 variants, then the high end will be iPhone 15 Pro Max or Ultra or whatever Apple decides to name it.

Then offer a mini version of the flagship every other year (iPhone 15 mini, iPhone 17 mini, etc.) for those who still prefer a slightly smaller flagship. Or maybe a Pro version of a mini instead. Maybe that will sell better than a regular mini.
 
I suspect the iPhone 14 isn't doing much better, both are simply too expensive compared to the pro's, I suspect Apple will hike the price of the Pro's instead of reducing the price of the 14's 😏
I had an 11, upgraded to the 14 Pro back in October. There was no way I was going to pay more money for older tech that had a tiny extra few Mhz speed boost.
 
Maybe think about people that get headaches and eye strain from using these phones? It’s the reason that has kept me from going OLED with Apple.
 
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Yea the issue is they aren't made to be bought. They're made as stepping stones to the Pros. People seem to think they are paying less for Pros if the mid tiers exist. It's still a grand or more either way.

And this is exactly the kind of marketing think that got Apple into a terrible position in the 90s that they needed Steve to save them from, and nobody is going to save them this time. It's becoming increasingly obvious that Tim Cook cares much less about being the best experience and much more about fulfilling all the MBA strategies to maximize revenue. We've seen this over and over again for decades and nobody ever learns. As soon as a successful company stops trying to be the best and starts chasing short term gains and revenues per user, the downward spiral begins.
 
The Plus is priced too close to the Pro

They should have raised the 14 Pro prices to create more of a difference. Demand for the Pro warrants that anyway
You're right to an extent, the price difference is too small, however the real reason, is that the 14's aren't good value for the money, so putting the pro's up, won't change that, at $899 they should be making a pro version of the mini, with a better battery and it will fly off the shelves, or at least a mini with 2 camera's (because realistically u can't fit 3) and the same chassis as the pro's
 
No reason for the regular lineup. Financing a Pro for two years isn’t that much more than a regular.
 
You're right to an extent, the price difference is too small, however the real reason, is that the 14's aren't good value for the money, so putting the pro's up, won't change that, at $899 they should be making a pro version of the mini, with a better battery and it will fly off the shelves, or at least a mini with 2 camera's (because realistically u can't fit 3) and the same chassis as the pro's

To be honest, compared to the competition these days, for the price the Pro is already too expensive. And they're already cutting corners with things like removing the SIM slot. There was absolutely no justifiable reason to do that on a so-called Pro phone.

If you want a high refresh screen, big battery, and actual Pro features like a SIM slot, they've put themselves in a position where a Samsung phone is actually the smarter buy. The only reason to get the Pro is for iOS. Which is a big reason and the reason I got it. But they aren't really competing in value for hardware anymore and iOS is falling behind.

Thank god we got dynamic island though. Everyone has been clamoring for that, it was a clear shortcoming of an otherwise perfect and complete device (/s if it wasn't painfully obvious.)
 
It's becoming increasingly obvious that Tim Cook cares much less about being the best experience and much more about fulfilling all the MBA strategies to maximize revenue.

Yup -- Exactly why I've been wishing he would step down and ride off into billionaire retirement.

He hasn't mailed it in or anything, but he's optimizing for goals that are mostly antithetical to what most of us want and have loved about Apple.

The pivot to make everything Apple into a recurring revenue subscription and/or AD business is nauseating to watch.
 
The last three iPhones in the family (including parents and in-laws) have been either the 12 mini or 13 mini. Not planning on buying larger phones so I hope they last!

I was on an SE1 forever (only left it because of no iOS16 support) and now a 13 Mini.
I enjoy the 13 Mini, but don't love it like I loved the 4" size phones.

If they ever nuked the size class of the Mini and no longer kept up latest iOS support of it (like happened to my SE1), I'd literally be looking elsewhere. I don't know where or for what (the options are always changing), but I will **not** be migrating up to something even bigger just to stay on an iPhone. No way, no how.
 
Just picked up a 128GB iPhone 14 Plus Blue from ATT for 180 dollars. Apple’s pricing mistake is my win. 😎
I remember one year on Black Friday they messed up the pricing of one of the refurb Plus iPhones. They put the contract price as the financed price, so it was like 24 mo on $399 instead of the retail. Might have even been less at that time.
 
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My tastes seem to be slightly different to most people in this thread. I like large phones and have the iPhone 13 Pro Max, which is excellent. I've got my eye on the iPhone 15 Ultra (if that does turn out to be real).

It would be nice if the Ultra had a fair amount of new features compared to a standard iPhone and a Pro model.

If the Ultra is nothing new, I'll skip the 15 generations as I did with the iPhone 14 Pro Max.
 
I haven't really "needed" to upgrade my phone since the iPhone 6, I only have like 2 dozen apps on my phone these days it's really just a simple utility for me now. I kinda just upgrade when I need to change the battery, every 3-4 years or so.

But I'm literally just waiting for you to add USB-C at this point, seems silly to upgrade until you do that now with knowing it's coming soon and EU laws changing. Why hurt my resale value, nobody will want to find lightning cords in the future.
 
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