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Macs are the best they've ever been. iPad is still trying to find its place in the world.
Actually it’s used everywhere. My old job all the field service techs used them. iPad classic or standard that is. But they were not upgraded yearly so perhaps this is one reason why iPad sales are not as high. People don’t upgrade iPads as often as phones.
 
Always amazes me that the iPad revenue is so close to the Mac revenue.
Revenue doesn’t equal profits. Mac Profits are far higher than iPad. Look they even built their own SoCs to avoid the highest cost which were Intel chips. I would have figured Apple was saving $300 per Mac but they’re charging more not even the same amount.

A lot of iPads are $349 cheapest iPad version sold at Walmart or Target for less. That’s not winning revenue. It’s not the same as Mac revenue which probably nets 60% margins or higher depending on how many extra people buy.
 
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Luca Maestri said regarding next quarter (Q4) that "directionally, it should get a bit better."

So they're expecting strong iPhone 15 sales? Maybe new M3 Macs (iMac) too?
I think it'll be a significant upgrade year for a lot of people (myself included). I want a smaller phone than my 12 Pro Max, so 15 Pro it is. I'm also going to re-buy the AW Ultra as the general training platform is heading very much in the right direction and it's probably going to stay on the same platform for a few years from this launch. I'll buy and keep that one and sell my 8 Stainless.
 
I think iPhone sales could have been recovered if Apple had not eliminated the iPhone Mini.
The iPhone mini hasn't been eliminated though. It's still in the iPhone line-up.

You mean it hasn't been updated? Well, the iPhone 14 (and 14 Plus) is just an iPhone 13 in disguise so Apple probably didn't see the point in releasing an iPhone 14 mini.
 


Apple today announced financial results for its third fiscal quarter of 2023, which corresponds to the second calendar quarter of the year.

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For the quarter, Apple posted revenue of $81.8 billion and net quarterly profit of $19.9 billion, or $1.26 per diluted share, compared to revenue of $83.0 billion and net quarterly profit of $19.4 billion, or $1.20 per diluted share, in the year-ago quarter.

Gross margin for the quarter was 44.5 percent, compared to 43.3 percent in the year-ago quarter. Apple also declared a quarterly dividend payment of $0.24 per share, payable on August 17 to shareholders of record as of August 14.As has been the case for over three years now, Apple is once again not issuing guidance for the current quarter ending in September.

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Apple will provide live streaming of its fiscal Q3 2023 financial results conference call at 2:00 p.m. Pacific, and MacRumors will update this story with coverage of the conference call highlights.

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Article Link: Apple Reports 3Q 2023 Results: $19.9B Profit on $81.8B Revenue
Unbelievable results, considering the mediocre upgrades across the board and the economic situation across the world, higher net profits, are the only bottom line that matters, but the turn over is unreal 😳
 
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Tim Cook has been a great CEO, and this demonstrates it once again.
… yes, if all you are looking at is $$$. As a consumer, I would prefer more choices and significant improvements in quality control. Yes, i know, there is Android and Windows but I am locked into Apple‘s eco-system monopoly … locked in not theoretically, i know, but practically.
 
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I feel like Apple has a TON of juice left and there’s no end in sight, but I do wonder what the future holds for them…

It seems like so many major companies have gone through some kind of huge change in the past couple of years. whether it be mass layoffs, rebranding, merging etc.

but Apple recently… has launched their own Silicon and it’s great. revealed their headset… AppleTV+, MLS… and that’s pretty much it on a major scale.

nothing wrong with their moves, but I’m just curious.
 
I could see USB-C getting a number of folks who are still on iPhone 11/12/13 to upgrade to iPhone 15.

And if AirPods, battery packs, Magic Keyboards and mice and such all go to USB-C, that will likely drive replacement sales.
Highly unlikely USB-C will ever drive the sale of anything. no one is going to subject themselves to having to buy all new charging cables for a phone that they bought specifically for a connector that requires all new cables.
 
Apple's profit shows they can keep new 15 iPhones at current prices.

Services revenue shows they can make MLS subscription part of Apple One subscription. Many new MLS subscribers are probably watching only Miami games.
What the profit margin shows is they were able to keep the costs of parts at pre-inflation levels, they're unlikely to pull off that trick off again this year.
Prices are going up, it's inevitable!
 
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Just like Meta is investing everything into VR, Apple has its hopes for the future based on Vision Pro being the next iPhone. If it fails, the long-term outlook is not so rosy. Now, I think Vision Pro will succeed massively. But so many people here disagree. The only number Apple improves on quarter after quarter, year after year is based on services. Something has to make up for the lack of iPad, iPhone and Mac prosperity. Better be Vision Pro.

I see Tim raping the company of all its resources. Taking as much as he can year after year. Selling the future for right now. It’s a major problem in public corporations. That’s why need someone who doesn’t care about the money in charge. Like Steve Jobs. Apple would have a much more secure future if they had gone with Scott Forestall and Jon Ive as their strategy moving forward versus Tim Cook. The MacBooks have gone backwards in every phase except SoC. That also was about money. Think we need a massive notch on our MacBooks? What about outdated SD cards and HDMI that didn’t have the same bandwidth as Thunderbolt. Thicker when they now don’t need to be to support legacy ports. I know I am not in the majority here, but I don’t care. All I care about as a user and investor is getting Tim Cook out and moving forward with someone who understands the technology inside these Apple products instead of a money now versus selling soul to devil for a company with no vision later.
You have a point, every single product upgraded this year has been skimped on, top engineers & innovators have been leaving Apple for years, replaced by less than average, but with the right profile.
It's not a recipe for long term success. I also suspect there is some very imaginative accounting going on at Apple.
Hope I'm wrong, but something doesn't smell right
 
You'll have to explain how a company having billions in cash on hand vs having less cash on hand will make them reconsider laying people off?

When Meta (Facebook) reported earnings in Oct 2022, they said they had $41.78 billion in cash on hand at the end of Sep 30, 2022. When Meta reported earnings last month, they said they had $53.45 billion in cash on hand at the end of Jun 30, 2023.

So, between Sep 30, 2022 and Jun 30, 2023, Meta's cash pile increased by $11.67 billion yet they've layed off over 20,000 employees since November 2022.
That's how their cash pile increased, lay offs 😏
 
Apple now has $166.5 billion in cash on hand, up fractionally from the $166.33 billion they reported having last quarter, and they're still only paying a $0.24 per share dividend? Raise the dividend, or give a one-time large dividend payout like Costco does.
It is the yield that goes with it, which is now sub 0.5%/year. It sucks for long time stock holders who can really only reap the rewards of Apple's “prosperity" by SELLING shares. It is debatable how much stock buybacks really help large companies with that many outstanding shares and they seem to be somewhat offset by exercised options of management. At least with a better dividend owners can then decide whether to purchase additional shares (which can also increase the price) or take a gain/profit without have to sell.
/rant
 
I think iPhone sales could have been recovered if Apple had not eliminated the iPhone Mini.

Apple also did not release a new seasonal color for the iPhone Pro Line up either this year. Thus, hurting the iPhone sales. The Yellow iPhone was not enough!
They need to make an iPhone Mini Pro at 5.8" that's the only way it will succeed, I have a feeling when the 16 pros go up in size by 0.2" we may well see an iPhone Mini Pro....At least I hope someone at Apple will finally come to that conclusion
 
iPhone is obviously carrying this company. There's definite softening on wearables and the iPad. iPad slowdown I think simply relates to the durability of these devices and the fact that they are currently overpowered for most folks' usage. Buy one and it lasts for four years (or more). I think the real product danger lies in wearables. If folks are like me, the Apple Watch has lost its luster. It's boring and everyone has one. Not much of a fashion or rebel statement any longer. On the headphone and earbud side, lots of very good competition out there. I'm about to drop my Airpods Pro for the new Sony WF-1000XM5. I had the M4 until my dog ate it, and I thought I'd try the Airpods. Didn't like them and going back.

The other interesting takeaway is the lackluster -- but steady -- Mac business. The world still loves Windows. Jobs hoped to penetrate that market more, but it looks like he's still not successful against the PC behemoth.

Apple needs something to compliment it's phone business. The VR headset ain't gonna be it. Some may see brightness on these graphs. I see peril...
 
The answer is fairly complex.

As I understand it and in very simple terms: a lot of the profit "reserve" is offshore. To bring it into America involves paying some corp taxes, so Apple leaves it offshore. While debt was cheap (until rate hikes fired up), Apple opted to borrow near free money to pay dividends and buy back shares, the latter of which further boosts the price of the stock. Many corporations did the same and this is partially what has fueled the bull market (not huge volumes of real individual buyers of stock but companies taking on cheap debt to buy back their own shares). Now that debt is not so cheap, Apple (and many other corps) may adjust the approach of borrowing so much.

The short answer: Apple is working within the law to maximize profit and minimize taxes... just like many other companies. Sometimes it makes more sense to carry huge debt than use earned cash reserves, even when you have much more than what you owe.

Behind the scenes, this cuts Wall Street bankers (the lenders) into the Apple Cash machine. Those tentacles always find a way to take a little bite out of everything. Jobs was anti-debt and Apple could be anti-debt (keeping the bankers OUT of the cookie jar) but apparently the net of cutting them IN maximizes profit for Apple Inc.

Someone correct any of that if my understanding is wrong.
All of what you say is true, however the simple reason is that the debt is so cheap, they make more money on the cash reserves than the debt costs.
 
iPhone is obviously carrying this company. There's definite softening on wearables and the iPad. iPad slowdown I think simply relates to the durability of these devices and the fact that they are currently overpowered for most folks' usage. Buy one and it lasts for four years (or more). I think the real product danger lies in wearables. If folks are like me, the Apple Watch has lost its luster. It's boring and everyone has one. Not much of a fashion or rebel statement any longer. On the headphone and earbud side, lots of very good competition out there. I'm about to drop my Airpods Pro for the new Sony WF-1000XM5. I had the M4 until my dog ate it, and I thought I'd try the Airpods. Didn't like them and going back.

The other interesting takeaway is the lackluster -- but steady -- Mac business. The world still loves Windows. Jobs hoped to penetrate that market more, but it looks like he's still not successful against the PC behemoth.

Apple needs something to compliment it's phone business. The VR headset ain't gonna be it. Some may see brightness on these graphs. I see peril...
Can't live without my Apple Watch however I can live without my iPhone now.
 
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