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I guess I care as I listen to what someone who runs a company says, and, perhaps foolishly feel that they are genuine with their public comments, and don't just not deliver.

I really do hope there is more to show.
My worry is that companies generally bring out great things and push hard when they are under pressure and really need to innovate.
My worry is Apple will get,or is just smug thinking all it needs to do it carry on with the yearly polish and that will do for another year.
It makes them money sure.
I hope we see a more dynamic Apple return as it was with innovation when it HAD to "innovate or die"
We've seen companies do this before and it generally ends in tears eventually.
I think you worry too much period. :)
 
Hey, maybe they sold 2 more iphone 5c than last year

I know you're being facetious, but iPhone sales overall were up 12.8% YOY. Clearly the 5C isn't the disaster some want to believe it is. It's a long-tail product that would do better further into the iPhone cycle as early adopters would opt for the flagship device.
 
It's pretty much guaranteed we won't see anything until September so why care what Cook says now. I'll care/worry if September comes around and what we get is nothing special.

Yeah, this would be my main takeaway from this quarterly report, no matter what Cook says in the conference call, and really no matter what numbers are being reported today. Investors who aren't trying to be quick buck artists are looking down the road to Q4 and Q1, with revenues from a new iPhone lineup and an entirely new product line.
 
Everyone who wants an iPad already has one and unlike phones. People don't replace their iPads every year or 2 years. More like 3-5 yrs.

Many of the iPads i see in households or offices are iPad 2s

Perhaps they would if newer iPad had better features?
Other than a bit thinner and a bit faster there is not really much of a reason.

Heck, I've still got my original iPad1 and other than crashing in Safari every time I use it almost. I kid you not, it still does all I need.
I could buy an iPad Air tomorrow but it would basically offer me nothing new.

If it was bigger, perhaps stereo speakers either side, app by app side by side. 16:10, SOMETHING major I'd go for a new one.
 
Everyone who wants an iPad already has one and unlike phones, people don't replace their iPads every year/2 years. More like 3-5yrs.

Many of the iPads i see in households or offices are iPad 2s or 3s

The lengthy iOS support contributes to the behaviour as well. iPad 2 shipped with iOS 4.3 yet it'll get iOS 8.

this means next year there will be a lot of people replacing them :D
 
Perhaps they would if newer iPad had better features?
Other than a bit thinner and a bit faster there is not really much of a reason.

Heck, I've still got my original iPad1 and other than crashing in Safari every time I use it almost. I kid you not, it still does all I need.
I could buy an iPad Air tomorrow but it would basically offer me nothing new.

If it was bigger, perhaps stereo speakers either side, app by app side by side. 16:10, SOMETHING major I'd go for a new one.

Don't really think the problem is feature-set. There's only so much you can do with tablet hardware. Other than battery life (already high), SOC (already speedy), screen (already crisp), software and accessory ecosystem.

The problem is unlike phones, tablets aren't subsidised so you don't get a new one for low cost/free every 2 years. Hence people are unlikely to budge until necessary.
 
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I swear if this was any other company this would be amazing but because it's Apple. It's meh :3

Well, yeah, it's only slightly better than last quarter. Of course it would be amazing if Apple was only making $10000 per quarter before.

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Oh yeah. Sure.

1 percent of the $7.7 billion bucks in profit for Apple last quarter is $77 million.

Given that it's almost all gravy for Apple, especially since little R&D is required at this point, $77 mil isn't chump change.

Yeah, except replace "little R&D" with "absolutely no R&D" :) Apple leaves the iPod totally stagnant, and it still makes $77M per quarter. The Classic hasn't been updated, not even changed in price, in many tech sector eras. It's a great deal for Apple.
 
As many have stated, its obvious the reason for the iPad decline is the long purchase cycle. iPhone is every 2 years AND a phone is a necessity product. ...

Analysts are saying it's both the long update cycle that you pointed out, along with people figuring out that tablets do not totally replace laptops.

Just for a baseline - those are crazy high margin rates for a hardware company that's pretty close to giving away most of their software.

They're good margins, but not unique in the electronics world.

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Nice job Apple! Just think this was without any new product announcements.

What does the lack of new products have to do with it? Apple reporting quarters are the same every year. The big 2: iPad and iPhone are released in September or Q4 every year. Apple Macs generally received spec bumps in quarter 3. So, the fact that there were no new products, other than spec bumps, have little or no impact on the 3rd Quarter results. The new products coming in September will impact Q3 2015 just as the iPad Air, iPad Mini w/Retina, iPhones 5c and 5s impacted Q3 2014. Got it! :rolleyes:
 
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On the earnings call Tim Cook said the 100+ apps being developed with IBM will be designed using Swift.

So question about that (that I've asked before but never get the answer): if a developer like IBM codes in Swift, they're not coding for any platform other than iOS, right? One can't code in Swift and have a resulting app that will also run on Android and other mobile platforms? Is that right?

Of course, I understand someone with IBMs resources could code something in Swift and then code for other platforms in entirely different languages if they wanted to do so but I'm asking this question about Swift itself… as if a brand new developer wanting to be able to code for more than just iOS should learn Swift or focus on other languages that might offer more code economies across platforms. Anyone know for certain?
 
Cook said of the 3 iPhone tiers, the 5C had the best YOY growth. Clearly Apple had no clue what it was doing when it created that product. ;)

Do you have a short memory or just like to use selective facts? Since you quote Cook during the just finished conference call you should go back to January's where Cook personally spoke about "disappointing" iPhone 5C sales. IIRC it was something like 3:1 in favor of the 5S. 5C Sales only picked up when resellers dropped the price dropped significantly below the $99 price; i.e. $29 to free!

So to suggest Apple knew what it was doing when it created the 5C may be true, but certainly it didn't understand how to price it. At launch it WAS a dud in one word -- not says me, said Tim Cook during the Q1 conf. call. Had Apple priced it right it at launch would have been a hit out of the gate.
 
apple has a serious issue. they make their products too durable and well built lol

Yes! My '09 MacBook Pro is going to serve all my needs through college. I don't need more CPU power to do my programming, and this is by far the most reliable laptop I've ever seen.
 
What does the lack of new products have to do with it? Apple reporting quarters are the same every year. The big 2: iPad and iPhone are released in September or Q4 every year. Apple Macs generally received spec bumps in quarter 3. So, the fact that there were no new products, other than spec bumps, have little or no impact on the 3rd Quarter results. The new products coming in September will impact Q3 2015. Got it! :rolleyes:

Just to clarify, Apple's fiscal year begins in October. The current quarter is Q4 2014 (July-Sept) and the quarter after that is Q1 2015 (Oct-Dec).
 
Don't really think the problem is feature-set. There's only so much you can do with tablet hardware. Other than battery life (already high), SOC (already speedy), screen (already crisp), software and accessory ecosystem.

The problem is unlike phones, tablets aren't subsidised so you don't get a new one for free every 2 years. Hence people are unlikely to budge until necessary.

Feature set has always been the factor that's stopped me from upgrading.
Other than a camera on the back (which I always said an iPad should have, and it still needs a flash unit fitted)
An iPad air is still pretty much the same as an iPad1. Its just a bit thinner faster iPad1.

If there was a range of iPads or some really new hardware changes so I felt I'd got something new, I'd go and get one. At the moment I'd spend a lot, get it home, look at it, and think, hmmmm, it's just the same as the one I've already god. Albeit less solidly made and from what I've heard poorer sound quality.

I need a better reason.
 
they really tried to avoid mentioning European numbers during the call didnt they

The problem is unlike phones, tablets aren't subsidised so you don't get a new one for low cost/free every 2 years. Hence people are unlikely to budge until necessary.

they are over here, i got my iPad 32 GB for 129€ on a 11€ LTE plan
 
I know what you mean! My almost 3 year old iPad 2 works perfectly fine. No need to upgrade.

Exactly - that market is going to have a much longer time between replacement than say phones, much more like laptops. Can't even get one of mine further than iOS6, but it still works ok.

This is the kind of reason Apple is never going to make a TV set .. replacement period is way too long.
 
Do you have a short memory or just like to use selective facts? Since you quote Cook during the just finished conference call you should go back to January's where Cook personally spoke about "disappointing" iPhone 5C sales. IIRC it was something like 3:1 in favor of the 5S. 5C Sales only picked up when resellers dropped the price dropped significantly below the $99 price; i.e. $29 to free!

So to suggest Apple knew what it was doing when it created the 5C may be true, but certainly it didn't understand how to price it. At launch it WAS a dud in one word -- not says me, said Tim Cook during the Q1 conf. call. Had Apple priced it right it at launch would have been a hit out of the gate.

It's a long tail product. I never expected it it be a big hit at launch because early adopters want the flagship device. Maybe Apple did get pricing wrong, but it's being adjusted where it needs to be to drive sales. Live and learn.
 
well they did point out percentages of the US and Asia and last time i heard the iPhone isnt doing so well in europe anymore so i wouldnt be surprised if they dont want to mention it

Oh ok yeah it's possible.
 
well they did point out percentages of the US and Asia and last time i heard the iPhone isnt doing so well in europe anymore so i wouldnt be surprised if they dont want to mention it

Cook said iPhone sales were up 10% in Europe, 55% in BRIC countries and 48%? in China.
 
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