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Stock up almost $7 in after hours trading.
Gotta give Tim credit for managing and then exceeding lowered expectations.

Think they got a bit lucky here. I think it is the SE sales which have exceeded their expectations by a lot that is the driving force behind these revenue and earnings beats.
 
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My old tech 2007 MBP 17" still runs rings around many newer PCs.
(To be fair I put an SSD into it and a few mem chips, but max is 6GB)
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Yes, if those PC's are specced worse than the mac. Otherwise, it doesn't. It really does not.

They are easy to use and last, last, last.....did I mention last?

My rMBP has failed me catastrophically twice. First there was the notorious GPU failure, then three months after they changed the motherboard, something else failed. Now I'm again on a new motherboard. Oh, and the display has dead pixels.
 
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Modern business culture is insane. "If you're not improving quarter over quarter, you're failing."

Shareholders aren't satisfied by just making money; they're only satisfied by making more money every quarter. It's a depressing and unsustainable position.

The growth rate of a cancer cell.
 
Imagine if they kept Macs up to date?

Imagine that... the Macs are old and cruddy and they still make 1/8th (nearly) of Apple's revenue. 12% of a company's revenue is HUGE. That's not small potatoes when you deal with a company as huge as Apple!!

If all Mac--ALL MACS--were kept up to date ASAP according to processor releases, the Macs might be making them 17 or 20% revenue. The mini, the monitor, the Pro: completely passed over again and again. Who is running this crazy train, off the rails and dancing on Ellen? Is there anyone that can put the glasses back on the walleyed leadership?

Steve Jobs told us they would fade back to desktops after developing the iPhone/iPad tech. I think he said around 2012 or so. That guy was right!

Steve Jobs died on October 5th, 2011.
Do you have an ouija-board?

Intel's roadmap turned out to be a worthless piece of paper, that's why we have to wait so long for updates.
I admit I'm waiting for an updated Air/Pro to see how it compares to the MB. Then, hopefully $work will pay for one ;-))
 
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Yes, if those PC's are specced worse than the mac. Otherwise, it doesn't. It really does not.

My rMBP has failed me catastrophically twice. First there was the notorious GPU failure, then three months after they changed the motherboard, something else failed. Now I'm again on a new motherboard. Oh, and the display has dead pixels.

If you have Apple Care keep having them fix it until it is ok.

Sorry, you have a bad experience. No manufacturer is perfect (and I do not expect it).
It's how they deal with issues that matters.

In all my Apple user 32 years of course I also had issues: one bad iMac with a pink screen, had a backlight burn out in the next iMac after many years, an ethernet module died in a Mac Pro, a motherboard died in my 17" MBP, couple of more motherboards of my daughters and one of a business friend, the Duo dock stopped working, plus some minute hockey puck mouse cable connection shortening, power cords fraying.

In many of these cases it was after a lot of years and some of the issues prompted class action suits (which I don't like) . Most of the time I was able to fix them myself with online parts.
Sadly no longer possible with todays generation of glue and screw.

Since 1984 they have gotten much better at quality. I am not defending Apple when there are lemons, but on a percentage basis they may have less lemons than other companies. Would be interesting to know.

I have bought new, refurbs and on eBay.

I still have many of my older macs and they all work. Just became obsolete when Apple switched to Intel and Motorola chips no longer could keep up.
 
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If you have Apple Care keep having them fix it until it is ok.

Sorry, you have a bad experience. No manufacturer is perfect (and I do not expect it).
It's how they deal with issues that matters.

In all my Apple user 32 years of course I also had issues: one bad iMac with a pink screen, had a backlight burn out in the next iMac after many years, an ethernet module died in a Mac Pro, a motherboard died in my 17" MBP, couple of more motherboards of my daughters and one of a business friend, the Duo dock stopped working, plus some minute hockey puck mouse cable connection shortening, power cords fraying.

In many of these cases it was after a lot of years and some of the issues prompted class action suits (which I don't like) . Most of the time I was able to fix them myself with online parts.
Sadly no longer possible with todays generation of glue and screw.

Since 1984 they have gotten much better at quality. I am not defending Apple when there are lemons, but on a percentage basis they may have less lemons than other companies. Would be interesting to know.

I have bought new, refurbs and on eBay.

I still have many of my older macs and they all work. Just became obsolete when Apple switched to Intel and Motorola chips no longer could keep up.

I might be a very lucky user, but since 1995 I've had a grand total of zero failures in Macs.

I had to change a backup battery on a dual processor G4, that's all the maintenance I did.

Once, I dropped an OG iBook to a tiled floor; a white vertical stripe appeared in the middle of the screen. Apple replaced the LCD, free of charge.
 
"2:22 pm Maestri: We faced a very difficult quarter with Macs compared to the year-ago quarter, when we launched a new MacBook Pro and iMac"

I think that was transcribed incorrectly.
Let me fix it:

2:22 pm Maestri: We created a very difficult quarter for ourselves trying to pawn off old spec Macs that we've been too lazy to update, compared to the year-ago quarter, when we launched a new MacBook Pro and iMac
 
2:22 pm Maestri: We created a very difficult quarter for ourselves trying to pawn off old spec Macs that we've been too lazy to update, compared to the year-ago quarter, when we launched a new MacBook Pro and iMac

I want to see the Mac line get updated but I see instead the beginning of a deliberate and planned decline of the Mac. Apple's interest is in iOS devices and its services. Sure, they'll keep the Mac around (milking users who don't mind the delays between releases) but it will be increasingly marginalised as a niche platform.

Apple wants consumer-level customers to move to an iPad. Apple is not interested in catering to professional users; they don't even want aspirational prosumers who are wedded to old ways of doing things. Check out Federico Viticci's website and podcasts if you want a glimpse of the type of power user Apple wants.

Professional users who need traditional hardware with traditional desktop metaphors really should look at moving to Linux or Windows. Change is hard, I get it. We've invested a lot of money and time in the Mac but if you fall into this category of user, and Apple's current Mac line up no longer fulfils your profession's performance needs, it really is time to move on.

The canary in the coal mine for the Mac is Swift Playgrounds. In another 2-3 revisions it will start looking an awful lot like Xcode. Couple that to a distributed build service on Linux and the Mac suddenly looks a lot less appealing as a development platform. When Apple decouples iOS app development from the Mac, there will be no need in Apple's mind to keep the Mac.
 
Tim always says this without fail:

2:17 pm Cook says Apple has incredible products in the pipeline and is very bullish about the company's future.
If I had a share of Apple stock for every time they said this, I'd own the company
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Cook is so out of touch, he needs to go!
Yes, I can't believe he hasn't been replaced by a child yet, after this glaring lapse.
 
If I had a share of Apple stock for every time they said this, I'd own the company
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Yes, I can't believe he hasn't been replaced by a child yet, after this glaring lapse.
What glaring lapse?
 
"...in the App Store and we are more focused these days on discovery..."

WTF? Apple has removed discovery from the app store so he is talking out of his.....
 
Funny how that works. Apple keeps on setting records or announces new things that people are excited about and the stock usually goes down, Apple simply does better than expectations (pretty much just feelings essentially) and the stock is up.
This is why I've been unable to make money with my AAPL shares. :confused:

I would have thought this is a horrible quarter, unit sales down across all product categories. Yet they beat someone's expectations? Only if you expected the smartphone age to be over and now you're pleasently surprised it isn't.

Apple not doomed for one more quarter. :cool: Ka-Ching!
 
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This chart says the iPad is Apple's biggest seller?
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You do realize I'm foreign, right?
I didn't. Your accent is so hard to detect.
 
Apple missed a big opportunity for iPad Pro 9.7. The price is just too high. I have had one and loved it, but many friends of mine just get turned off by the high price.

And the price of the pencil is too high as well. $100 is a significant add to the already expensive iPad.
 
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