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Apple Requiring Developers to Return DTK Mac Minis by March 31

zorinlynx said:
I have to wonder, why is Apple so desperate to get these back? Do they have plans for them other than recycling?

You'd think if some dev really wants to keep theirs as a memento, it should be allowed. Heck it saves Apple money since they don't have to give out that $500 credit.
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They just don't want them in circulation. Apple owes no one an explanation and just because they want the machines back doesn't mean they are "desperate" for them. Strange choice of words.
Also you're way too optimistic and giving developers too much credit thinking they'll just keep them as a "memento". LMAO. Many of them would get sold and end up in circulation. Is it really so hard to understand this?
 
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Rob_2811 said:
That doesn't explain why anybody should consider it a good deal.
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It has nothing to do with something being a "good deal". Developers are running a business to make money on their apps. This isn't about personal satisfaction. They wanted early access to Apple's hardware to develop for. Apple doesn't owe the developers a "good deal". It would be better if people here stop pretending like developers are doing Apple a favor because they are not.
 
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Maconplasma said:
It has nothing to do with something being a "good deal". Developers are running a business to make money on their apps. This isn't about personal satisfaction. They wanted early access to Apple's hardware to develop for. Apple doesn't owe the developers a "good deal". It would be better if people here stop pretending like developers are doing Apple a favor because they are not.
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Why send the hardware at all then?
 
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Rob_2811 said:
So Apple are giving devs back (assuming they want/need to purchase an m1 mac) the money that they spent on the mediocre hardware that they have to send back

Why are you making it sound like the deal of the century?
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I dunno, because they essentially got to rent early access hardware to develop their business for free?

Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
 
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Rob_2811 said:
So Apple are giving devs back (assuming they want/need to purchase an m1 mac) the money that they spent on the mediocre hardware that they have to send back

Why are you making it sound like the deal of the century?
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Because the last I checked, nobody was pointing a gun at these developers and forcing them to rent a developer kit.

Even if the developer doesn’t need a new Mac, they can still buy one with the credit and sell it online for some cash.

It’s free money either way.
 
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rafark said:
This is going to be a rare and expensive collector’s item in the future.
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It's only going to be rare if most people don't return it. So, ironically, by keeping it because you think it's value will increase, you're essentially helping to ensure that it won't.
 
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Developer I know got a DTK. It worked long enough to allow fixing a few minor issues porting apps to Apple Silicon. The unit died during an update, but perfectly fulfilled its purpose. Universal versions of his apps were ready for the App Store a couple weeks before his competition. My guess is that his apps sales easily paid for the rental, even without the bonus credit. Not a bad deal.

The complainers here must be wasting their time writing apps nobody wants.
 
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Abazigal said:
Because the last I checked, nobody was pointing a gun at these developers and forcing them to rent a developer kit.

Even if the developer doesn’t need a new Mac, they can still buy one with the credit and sell it online for some cash.

It’s free money either way.
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They could also put it towards the cost of some Airpods Max to scalp.
 
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jerryk said:
They are one-off models. They do not use an M1 chip, instead run a iPad Pro processor and run slower than the production systems. It is likely Apple will not support them in the future.

Why does Apple want them back. Likely for study and then destruction. If you have worked with alpha hardware prototypes, this is common. You don't want someone using a hacked-together system to build, debug, and test code and declare it ready to ship. The shipped product might fail when production systems will not, and succeed when production systems would fail. It also may contain proprietary Apple technology that they don't want out there.
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For immediate recycle.
 
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Realityck said:
Don't you think the terms of the DTK fully stated it had to be returned? Also now full reimbursement too.
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Ya but the credit should be in full in the country... eg.., when you purchase a Mac, the return it with 14 days fr a "FULL' refund, you get that" regardless of country..

Not matching the cost sounds like a let down.
 
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Tech198 said:
Not matching the cost sounds like a let down.
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Not matching costs with a non-zero amount sounds like a great bonus gift when the rental agreement offered zero, nada.

Or maybe I should feel let down for not getting a free Gulfstream private jet with my last AirPod purchase? What’s their current trade-in offer for 6 month old gently used AirPods anyway? Full price?
 
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