So.. they want to copy Galaxy Note
Wasnt this patent filed in 2010????? So how could they copy something that didnt exist?
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Apple Researching Stylus Concepts with Optical Tracking and Haptic Feedback
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Wasnt this patent filed in 2010????? So how could they copy something that didnt exist?
This clearly isn't a stylus aimed at basic input or signature recognition though, this seems to be aimed more at the issues artists/designers and other creatives who use iOS as an addition to their other mediums and the issues they are having resulting in the same complaints arising time after time regarding pressure sensitivity, accuracy and palm recognition?
You know you can use a stylus on your iPhone already, surely, you can buy them in Poundland now! (although if you're getting one, please spend a bit more money if you're about to drag a metal stick across your screen)
Unless you own a lot of shares, try not to get too wound up about Apple venturing down this path, they wouldn't be spending time and money on such patents if they didn't have a call to.
I guess not that many ppl read his book. As much of a genius that steve was by doing no one should take what he said with much attention
If it's addition to current implementation, offered as an option, I don't see why not. Although I hated using a stylus with my Palm devices years ago, especially while on the NYC subways. Too jerky.
(plus I could never get used to using my Wacom 4x6 tablet, if I moved the pen too far from the tablet was a PITA and couldn't adjust the height range)
(plus I could never get used to using my Wacom 4x6 tablet, if I moved the pen too far from the tablet was a PITA and couldn't adjust the height range)
I'll never understand why people insist on things being an absolute either/or situation. Jobs was right that a stylus was an absolute failure on a small device. Likewise artists are correct that a finger makes a poor substitute for a brush.
Now we have small multi-touch devices that work well and have great interfaces. Just because you add a new feature (stylus) doesn't mean the existing methods will go away. Everybody will continue on as they normally would and those that need the flexibility of a different input method will use that.
Besides, the drawings with phone and tablet devices are just decoys. This is obviously intended for use with the new iTV:
Now we have small multi-touch devices that work well and have great interfaces. Just because you add a new feature (stylus) doesn't mean the existing methods will go away. Everybody will continue on as they normally would and those that need the flexibility of a different input method will use that.
Besides, the drawings with phone and tablet devices are just decoys. This is obviously intended for use with the new iTV:
I would be interested in seeing how many of the people who have responded thus far in favour of the stylus, use a Wacom tablet more often than their mouse.
I'll start, I do.
I'll start, I do.
A device that relies on a stylus really IS getting it wrong. Apple was right. Your hands ARE the best way to interact with a computer.
That doesn’t mean specialized uses for a stylus (and many other things) don’t exist. That would be silly and extreme, and Apple never suggested that.
P.S. Apple patents and researches a ton of things. There’s no way to be that innovative if you never research anything except exactly what you actually end up shipping.
The finger is the best "stylus" for general purpose user interaction (menus, navigation, buttons, pinch, zoom). But for creative content creation (drawing, painting, retouching) the finger is next to useless. When you visit an art gallery, you don't see many finger paintings.
A stylus that works well is a fantastic tool for digital writing. People seem to absolutely love the S-pen that comes with the galaxy note, though I have never used one.
One of the major problems with Apple lately is their attack on useful tools in favor of our own fat fingers. They have tried to villain-ize the keyboard, mouse and stylus, and say everything should be poked at. However tools are what allow us to do more efficient, more productive, and more effective work. Should we eat with our hands vs, forks, spoons, knives, chopsticks, etc.? Should da Vinci have painted the Mona Lisa with his fingers?
If this is true I say good job to Apple. I am sure the "fingers only" propaganda came directly from Steve Jobs and that plenty of people within the company disagreed.
One of the major problems with Apple lately is their attack on useful tools in favor of our own fat fingers. They have tried to villain-ize the keyboard, mouse and stylus, and say everything should be poked at. However tools are what allow us to do more efficient, more productive, and more effective work. Should we eat with our hands vs, forks, spoons, knives, chopsticks, etc.? Should da Vinci have painted the Mona Lisa with his fingers?
If this is true I say good job to Apple. I am sure the "fingers only" propaganda came directly from Steve Jobs and that plenty of people within the company disagreed.
I agree with you. But you also probably don't see many paintings made on an iPhone or iPad at an art gallery either.
Is it not enough for third-party manufacturers to make styluses for Apple's products?
No, they aren't. I would take anyone up on a challenge where they got touch input and I got a keyboard and mouse. Just a comparison of who could write and edit a document faster, and also perhaps do some graphics editing. The person relying on touch would lose by a country mile. Touch is an imprecise and clunky method of input for "serious" work.
I'll purchase the Adonit Jot Touch stylus as it is very similar to the one Apple has in schematic. Steve was both right and wrong on using a stylus. Right in that yes, using your finger works well for the overall useability of apple touch devices but writing, drawing, etc, need the stylus. Anything for precision. Until I can see through my finger, it will not work as well.
Well, at least you didn't sat pros
The lack of a stylus and at least some of the features you can get with a wacom is basically the only thing holding me from buying an iPad right now. Even something like 512 levels of pressure sensitivity would be more than enough for me, imagine the possibilities for apps then...
So.. they want to copy Galaxy Note
Yes. Because the Galaxy Note was the first device to ever use a stylus.
So the Note really did win out. We will see an iPen just as I predicted would happen if the Galaxy Note succeeded. After all those advertisements from Samsung poking fun at Apple and how all of us were fighting back saying how much styli suck, we are going to see them on iDevices very soon. The Note with its HUGE screen and stylus revolutionized the industry, something Apple hasn't done in years and now once again Apple will follow in Samsung's footsteps, playing a losing game of catch up instead of innovating on their own.
Disappointed in the direction this company has headed since Steve Jobs' passing. All these copycat features and very minor updates instead of bringing the heavy hitting groundbreaking technology like in the past....A 4 inch iPhone with a stylus is going to be the big release this year, how sad.
Either it's all that, or it's patent trolling which is even more ridiculous.
Disappointed in the direction this company has headed since Steve Jobs' passing. All these copycat features and very minor updates instead of bringing the heavy hitting groundbreaking technology like in the past....A 4 inch iPhone with a stylus is going to be the big release this year, how sad.
Either it's all that, or it's patent trolling which is even more ridiculous.
A 4" phone with a stylus is stupid imo. You don't need one. DOn't really need a stylus until you get into the Not range
Galaxy Note is using Wacom, if its not accurate either its due to user error, or its because it was a defective unit. Wacom is the best in the business and so far hasn't been beat.