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Going to disagree here. Do you think the best pen is your finger dabbed in ink? If I want to write on a digital screen (no doubt this is where technology will take us), I want an accurate stylus that mimics a pen as close as possible. However, I don't get all this haptic feedback BS. If you're going the stylus route (as a very useful accessory) then focus on the pen-like experience, please, Apple!

Completely agree. There is a reason people stopped painting on cave walls with fingers and invented better mark making tools. If Apple ever really wants to replace pen and paper then they are going to need pressure sensitivity, angle and twist recognition.
 
As long as the stylus is an optional, but fully supported accessory this will be great. Apple sells a keyboard, and that's fine its not included or required by anything, but it improves writing on the devices. People need to calm down it will be an optional $30 accessory that won't impact the touch experience at all.
 
In order to implement a accurate stylus properly, would screen hardware have to change? Just curious. I can see the touch panel grid on my iPad screen when I hold it at a certain angle and it certain light. And when you see the grid you can understand why the styluses of today aren't accurate. Im assuming that would have to change..No?
 
The next "big" thing in Apple products after Retina displays will be Haptic feedback enabled screens.

Starting with the iPhone or iPad. Both of those devices need that "Holy Crap I Need That I've Never Seen That Before, It's Magical" feature to stay ahead of the competition. Since the iPhone is getting a new form factor that be enough boost for this year but the iPad 4 next spring will start looking a little tired and featured starved.

Apple will never use a stylus, that is step backwards. They would never wedge a tool between the user and technology they've become accustomed to touching already. The only logical place to go from here is gesture interface.
 
An iPad Stylus could open up the device to the engineering and architecture fields.

That being said, the Android loyal trolls will call this another way in which Apple "steals" from Android.
 
What would you use this for then? Hmmm, looking at the drawings maybe it's a 'Pro' version of the iPad?
The ones on the Galaxy Note, are they very accurate?


Yes is very accurate and for note taking is better than the keyboard by far... I have both, iPhone4 and the Note, both are great devices covering very different markets.
 
Doesn't mean much. Apple most likely is looking to implement these features in iOS to cater to third-parties looking to develop stylus input. I doubt this would ever become part of the standard iPhone/iPad. It's like handwriting recognition in OS X. It's there for those who need it, for third-parties to work with, but it's not a standard part of the way you interact with the system.
 
In order to implement a accurate stylus properly, would screen hardware have to change? Just curious. I can see the touch panel grid on my iPad screen when I hold it at a certain angle and it certain light. And when you see the grid you can understand why the styluses of today aren't accurate. Im assuming that would have to change..No?

The touch input layer has to change if Apple wants to use a pressure sensitive stylus.
 
Steve said a lot of things and then proceeded to do the exact opposite. I always find it funny when people quote him like it was gospel.
It's not Steve he's making fun of, but those newcomers who quote Steve's distractions like gospel, only to dine on crow when the products come out. :)
 
An iPad Stylus could open up the device to the engineering and architecture fields.

That being said, the Android loyal trolls will call this another way in which Apple "steals" from Android.

Trolls will be trolls. Like Apple trolls shooting down the Note because it uses a stylus.
 
whats wrong w/ optional accessories? id welcome this as much as a keyboard or game controller. right tool for the right job. (or would that be....write job?!)

Exactly. There's nothing to lose by developing the APIs and the features in iOS to support these things. Apple doesn't have to require them and it opens the doors for third parties who, otherwise, might concentrate their efforts on different platforms.
 
Make it pressure, tilt, rotation sensitive and pinpoint accurate and you have a compelling reason for it. All things you can't do with a finger. Well, perhaps pressure sensitive, but what good is that when you are covering a square cm of the screen with your finger.
 
I would be first in line to buy a pen device that would be allow me to write on my ipad that doesn't have a fat tip. Using a finger is ridiculous to me, and the current pen solutions use tips that are too big for precision.
 
As does the Note.

Indeed, I have access to, and use one regularly.

I should have more clearly defined the two portions of my post. My second portion of the post was intended to be seen as a general reply to the overall thread, I should have put that above me quoting the OP.

Many people had been reacting to the headline, without actually reading into why or how a Stylus would be implemented into the concept. That was why I was stating it was more than just a simple plastic pen.
 
Completely agree. There is a reason people stopped painting on cave walls with fingers and invented better mark making tools. If Apple ever really wants to replace pen and paper then they are going to need pressure sensitivity, angle and twist recognition.

I agree. I work in a school and having pressure, angle, etc. sensitivity will be great for our computer graphics classes.

Along with painting stuff, I want the ability to hand write things on the iPad. For me, it would be a lot easier to just get the stylus to write something the margins of a book or whatever. This would help a lot of people who are more comfortable with handwriting than with typing. Plus, some of the kids in my school (grades 6-8) have horrible handwriting. Maybe someone could create a good handwriting app (print & cursive).

Add in handwriting recognition so that it can convert handwriting to printed text.
 
The finger is the best "stylus" for general purpose user interaction (menus, navigation, buttons, pinch, zoom). But for creative content creation (drawing, painting, retouching) the finger is next to useless. When you visit an art gallery, you don't see many finger paintings.

True, but then again oil based paints don't work well with fingers, not to mention being that our fingers aren't a series of thin filaments that can hold liquids to then be evenly dispersed on a surface to point out the obvious is truly daft.

However, no pen based solution can duplicate a brush or various width pen/pencil and all are just states of software algorithm manipulation designed to simulate it, and depending on the advancement of screen/sensor design the algorithms can be programmed to work with the sensor<->finger relation to simulate the same behavior; and our `touch' is easier to control with our direct finger contact than an intermediary ala a stylus.
 
Absolutely hilarious. I just love how people here bashed the galaxy note and it's stylus. Samsung get full credit for bringing back the stylus. Just love how people here laughed at the galaxy note and cried, "who wants a stylus and a phone the size of a tablet? "
Samsung had the big ones too bring back the stylus and get full credit. Apple just look like followers now.
 
So.. they want to copy Galaxy Note :confused:

The Galaxy Note stylus is like what Apple used on the Newton way back in the 90s. This is quite different.

It would be great if they would advance this technology to enable the blind to see images on the screen instead of just getting verbal feedback on what they're touching.
 
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