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Apple Researching Stylus Concepts with Optical Tracking and Haptic Feedback

game changing

If apple can sucessfully impllement an ipad stylus, it will eventually extend the technology to the imac--and that will be a game changer
 
divinox said:
Why do people have an issue writing on glass? I loathe high friction writing, totally kills the flow of things. As long as they find a way to properly grasp pressure and angle, and ensures a smooth writing experience overall, i don't see any problems at all.
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I should have been more clear. I don't mind writing on glass when it has the same feel as a cintiq, however the high gloss super smooth glass stops me from taking the Ipad seriously as a drawing device. It might be okay for taking a quick note or two.
 
In the note stylus thread: random ppl say a stylus is stupid.

In this thread: different ppl say they wouldn't mind a stylus

In the haters mind: the ppl from both threads just HAVE to be the same ppl...:rolleyes:

I mean, at least attempt to do some cross checking before trolling...
 
Humans developed the pen for a reason...

Stylus input would exponentially increase the ipad's functionality.

As an engineering student, the ability to use my ipad as as note taking device for hand written notes would be incredible. I would literally have no need for books or paper. The current "solution" of using one's finger to "write" hand written notes is pathetic when compared to using a tablet computer with a wacom stylus. Humans developed tools such as pens for a reason. Our fingers simply aren't capable of such fine and subtle notions.

I love apple and their products, and apple's capacitive touch screen is one of the best, but that doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement.

Adding new functionality isn't going to hurt those want to use their finger - just like using a bluetooth headset (not necessary, but implemented by apple) doesn't detract from those who want to use speakerphone.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Yesterday a stylus was stupid, today it's great. Amazing.
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Context and knowledge are everything.

1) A stylus was never stupid per se. After all, everyone uses drawing and writing instruments daily. The complaint was only about having to use one to click tiny onscreen objects. (*)

2) For capacitive touchscreens, there's a HUGE difference between a stylus and an active pen. A stylus in that case is simply trying to be a finger. A pen is far more precise and also capable of measuring pressure.

(*) A lot of people, who first heard about touchscreen phones from Jobs, mistakenly think that you had to use a stylus to make resistive touchscreens work at all. Nope. A finger/fingernail worked as well. That wasn't the problem. The problem was the tiny UI element sizes, which were an artifact of trying to cram more info into the common small screens of the time.
 
kdarling said:
Context and knowledge are everything.

1) A stylus was never stupid per se. After all, everyone uses drawing and writing instruments daily. The complaint was only about having to use one to click tiny onscreen objects. (Which itself was an artifact of trying to cram more info into the common small screens of the time.)(*)

2) For capacitive touchscreens, there's a HUGE difference between a stylus and an active pen. A stylus in that case is simply trying to be a finger. A pen is far more precise and also capable of measuring pressure.

(*) A lot of people, who first heard about touchscreen phones from Jobs, mistakenly think that you had to use a stylus to make resistive touchscreens work at all. Nope. A finger/fingernail worked as well. That wasn't the problem. The problem was the tiny UI element sizes.
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Good point. But i think applescruffs point was that suddenly because of this report, iphone users think a stylus is magical when they thought it was stupid on the Note. You know, the whole "Apple users are sheep" thing?

Had he taken a second to cross reference he'd have seen it's not the same users flip flopping. But of course that would blow a hole in his generalization! :D
 
Bezetos said:
Too late, stylus enabled screens already exist and this (mainly due to its incredible precision) is surely more revolutionary (imo).
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Mickey fickey, that looks great. The only downside I may see is if doesn't offer some form of pressure sensitivity.
 
kdarling said:
Context and knowledge are everything.

1) A stylus was never stupid per se. After all, everyone uses drawing and writing instruments daily. The complaint was only about having to use one to click tiny onscreen objects. (*)

2) For capacitive touchscreens, there's a HUGE difference between a stylus and an active pen. A stylus in that case is simply trying to be a finger. A pen is far more precise and also capable of measuring pressure.

(*) A lot of people, who first heard about touchscreen phones from Jobs, mistakenly think that you had to use a stylus to make resistive touchscreens work at all. Nope. A finger/fingernail worked as well. That wasn't the problem. The problem was the tiny UI element sizes, which were an artifact of trying to cram more info into the common small screens of the time.
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I was referring to what I have have read here along the lines of stylus on other tablet= no good. Now Apple introduces a styles so it is great. Similar to the 7" iPad being a dumb idea until the day it is announced it will be suddenly become brilliant to all those that originally bashed it. Ditto for the larger screen iPhone. No trolling intended, just an amusing observation of how opinions change just because Apple is doing it.

And I thank you for your reply. I learned something that I knew nothing about. :)
 
AppleFan1984 said:
It's not Steve he's making fun of, but those newcomers who quote Steve's distractions like gospel, only to dine on crow when the products come out. :)
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I've never seen that last part happen.

When Apple has reversed course in the past, the standard response has been "oh, but Apple figured out how to do it RIGHT! So now it's okay!" ;)

It's funny because it's very 1984-ish... we've always been at war with Eastasia, that sort of thing.
 
tablet v slate

Apple defined the tablet market with the ipad--it is a great device plugged into an amazing software ecosystem and will continue to be a huge success. But there are a lot of users who need more functionality--true x86 software, multiwindow multitasking, the abitlity to draw and handwrite, plus some additional screen real estate.This market--lets call it the slate market--is small compared to the tablet market, but it is significant, students, engineers, designers. This the problem windows 8 could have solved, but it appears MS is asleep again
 
Renzatic said:
Isn't that what they're actively doing with Windows 8? You've got Windows RT for the "Tablet" market, and Windows 8 proper for the "slate" market.
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well yes, and no. now you will one product "windows 8", with two separate set of functionalities. I guess people might make the "RT" destinction--if they are not confused with "NT".

But windows 8 looks like a bomb, and its bimodal distribution will confuse any buyers not sufficently discouraged by metro weirdness. Its not hard to imagine the x86 tablet market stumbling until the introduction of the mac slate pro, iwth the revolutionary ipen
 
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