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While I can see frustration from those who use Apple Pay, there are still MANY like myself who would rather use cash and/or hard plastic currency. So if they can create a secondary market and "in-store" advertise it to those of us who still don't have Apple Pay, they'll take a small slice of the pie--even if it is small.

Samsung did this with their ads. They weren't trying to switch Apple iPhone users, they were trying to get those on the fence.
 
How do they expect to roll this out globally if it requires a social security number and a driver's license number, along with access to a bank account?

Sound's like a bunch of american companies coming up with an idea that's good for them, but didn't think of a global payment solution.
 
At first it seems kind of jerky to begin to develop a competing payment method, but really, those companies are taking a huge blow that will promote competition. This competition will only improve Apple Pay. It's good to have options and alternatives. Even if not from Apple.
 
SSN and bank account requirements aside, it is nice that it at least works with older devices (including the 5S that Apple still sells).

Instead of "at least works with older devices" you should have said "next year when available it will work with older devices."

This CurrentC service sounds cool, and I downloaded the app for my 5s. It's not available yet though, as the summary mentions they are only testing one region currently. So they are disabling ApplePay around here for a service that is possibly a year away.
 
After the security breach with Target last year, I'm surprised they would not opt for secure NFC payments like Apple Pay and Google Wallet.
 
I'd like to think that most iPhone owners wouldn't be seen dead at Walmart, but the weird thing about poverty is that you'll find those who can barely feed their kids who still find a way to have a new phone.

Also: CVS - no Apple Pay and no cigarettes. Walgreens it is, then!

I'd like to think that those who engage in logical fallacy retorts could realize, just how stupid such based retorts are.
 
Honestly, why even bother fighting that horse crap. It's like trying to prevent a Ford Focus from beating your Ferrari in a race. It's completely unnecessary.

People often don't know when they are defeated.

Sometimes it helps to clearly define a loss for the Ford Focus, because otherwise the Ford Focus will spend 6 months or 3 years fighting back in a futile effort to try and win.

If Apple disallowed the CurrentC app, then the retailers would categorically know they were defeated, and thus would have no further incentive to prolong their fight.

This would save years of market confusion for the users.
 
It isn't here, either, but MCX is spearheaded by Walmart and also includes the Gap, Best Buy, Meijer, Target…

I'm not sure why any company would insist on an either/or situation, but it probably has something to do with money
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This is the key question here. This isn't even an Apple question.

As a merchant, your primary business is to bring in sales and revenue by selling your product. Why, would you not welcome or accept being paid in as many payment forms as humanly possible

Giving more payment options means more ways to get paid, which means more potential buyers. its win win by accepting everything.

The only reason for such an exclusivity agreement, and to even accepting such, is because likely, someone in the decision making process is receiving a significant amount of money that the potential for lost sales doesn't matter.

its the wrong way of doing business IMHO
 
Once again this thread does not fail to disappoint. Merchants you frequently shop you will now boycott because they don't take NFC payments. God forbid you take a stand against Walmart due to their working conditions or Nike for their slave-like labor tactics.
 
This is the key question here. This isn't even an Apple question.

As a merchant, your primary business is to bring in sales and revenue by selling your product. Why, would you not welcome or accept being paid in as many payment forms as humanly possible

Giving more payment options means more ways to get paid, which means more potential buyers. its win win by accepting everything.

The only reason for such an exclusivity agreement, and to even accepting such, is because likely, someone in the decision making process is receiving a significant amount of money that the potential for lost sales doesn't matter.

its the wrong way of doing business IMHO
Data mining is why Walmart and several others are against Apple. They want to be able to data mine and Apple removes that ability per transaction.
 
While I can see frustration from those who use Apple Pay, there are still MANY like myself who would rather use cash and/or hard plastic currency. So if they can create a secondary market and "in-store" advertise it to those of us who still don't have Apple Pay, they'll take a small slice of the pie--even if it is small.

Samsung did this with their ads. They weren't trying to switch Apple iPhone users, they were trying to get those on the fence.

I hear and agree with you. I like having multiple options and I don't suggest cash will go away or even credit cards.

My ideal scenario is that one day I can leave my wallet at home (as I already carry my phone everywhere).
 
crazy!

never thought this topic would blow up like this!

Edit: was at CVS today (not totally boycotting them) and during my drink purchase I just put my phone up to the reader and apple pay still comes up like it should. Obviously won't go through on their end but I'm hoping at some point this gets sorted and the consumer wins.
 
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Once again this thread does not fail to disappoint. Merchants you frequently shop you will now boycott because they don't take NFC payments. God forbid you take a stand against Walmart due to their working conditions or Nike for their slave-like labor tactics.

I do both. Is that cool?
 
I'd like to think that most iPhone owners wouldn't be seen dead at Walmart, but the weird thing about poverty is that you'll find those who can barely feed their kids who still find a way to have a new phone.

Also: CVS - no Apple Pay and no cigarettes. Walgreens it is, then!
Because only poor people shop at walmart.
 
Of course it does. The retailers don't want to pay the 2%-3% charge to the credit card companies.

this wont change.

as long as they are accepting credit cards in any form, they will be paying the fee. Regardless if it's done via CurrenC or PayPass, Apple Pay, or Google Wallet.

These are transaction fees by whomever provides their Credit Card terminals. You think suddenly, retailers are going to stop accepting major credit cards.

Thats called Suicide
 
I still don't get the difference between high profile "partners" who have "signed up to Apple Pay", and any old retailer who accepts NFC payments. Surely there's no difference; is it just Apple marketing spin?

Eh, pretty much. Maybe they have a committment to have NFC readers at every location instead of some. But more than likely, they're just paying Apple for the privilege of having their logo on Apple's website. It's good advertising. How many people here went to McDs and Walgreens last Monday just to try out ApplePay because they knew it would be supported there?
 
It seems highly unlikely that the retailers are designing the system to compete with ApplePay, but rather are designing it to remove credit card issuers as the middlemen in the payments. This may seem like long ago, but people used to pay for goods with cash and checks, with credit cards a distant third. That situation has been reversed, with credit cards now well in the lead, and retailers no longer want to pay anywhere from 1-1/2% to 3-1/2% or more to card issuers for handling payments, preferring to either keep some of that to lower prices or raise profits. When you compare the cost of a credit card transaction to the cost of ACH ($2.50 per transaction per $100 to as low as $0.05 per transaction fixed ), you can see why retailers want to cut out credit card companies from the transaction.

While it is ungainly what the retailers are planning, Apple jumped into bed with the card companies, probably because it pays the lowest rate on its card transactions already, so the retailers are left trying to reclaim their position in payments that they had long ago ceded. Personally, while ApplePay seems very convenient, I would much rather not be paying banks and other card issuers their discount fee for my purchases. I just wish that the retail community had the backing of a company like Apple to do their work for them to achieve a more elegant solution.

Debit is a safer system (when using chip and pin) and its less expensive than credit for any transaction over $10; for a $100 transaction, its 0.2%! Why don't they promote debit transactions from $10+ sales then if its only to stick in to the CC companies.
 
My local Whole Foods has several window stickers to let customers know they support Apple pay.

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Except they're not declining money. They still accept cash and cards like just about every other business does.

It is if people decide to shop elsewhere.
 
It is if people decide to shop elsewhere.

That's their own choice. But claiming these companies won't accept their money anymore is ludicrous, as paper money, credit cards, and debit cards are and will remain a valid way to make payments for the foreseeable future.
 
I'd like to think that most iPhone owners wouldn't be seen dead at Walmart, but the weird thing about poverty is that you'll find those who can barely feed their kids who still find a way to have a new phone.

Also: CVS - no Apple Pay and no cigarettes. Walgreens it is, then!

Funny, I would have thought most iPhone users wouldn't be seen dead smoking a cigarette.

I guess we're both ignorant
 
Once again this thread does not fail to disappoint. Merchants you frequently shop you will now boycott because they don't take NFC payments. God forbid you take a stand against Walmart due to their working conditions or Nike for their slave-like labor tactics.

One doesn't exclude the other. Though I don't go to Walmart because they suck in general mo matter what other factors are involved. Not saving 1% (these days, they're not really more inexpensive) and enduring such an abysmal lifeless place; I'm not that desperate.
 
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