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Getting off of Facebook is easy. It’s Instagram that’s the hard one to ditch. I wish there were some way to convince people to check out Ello again...
 
Facebookers already know damn well they're tracked and mined and collated and amortized and monetized to all hell --- And They Don't Care.
It's all about the Likes. It's all about addiction. This tracking warning screen won't do nuthin to stop them from clicking through. None of them will leave the platform They're all plugged into the matrix .
Yep this also is true, a bunch of sheep
 
Yet I have no way to opt out of being tracked? FB needs to take a chill pill. We are the ones affected by their creepy behavior. cry me a river.
You guys realize that you don't need to wait for Apple to enable this feature, right? You can go into Facebook and disable ad tracking right now with a few clicks.
 
This is my problem, some niched small social groups exist only in fb. Fb kind of replaced bb forums on stuff I was doing 10 years ago, it feels like everyone I know migrated but it’s definitely harder to reach other people without knowing their usernames from the get go because a lot of people I know are international and not easy to find like in the US

Precisely why I stay on FB, I am a co-admin of several fossil sites, and a member of some other groups that allow me daily contact with friends nationally and internationally. A lot of my international friends (in my case fossil collectors and dealers) are only available to me via Facebook and Messenger. They do not have iPhones. (Often cheap androids) so iMessage is out, yeah I can text but some of them like a good friend in Morocco for example do not have that as they travel, use different phones and the texting not a solid option but Facebook messenger allows us instant contact as needed. So I remain with facebook until a better alternative is available.
 
Agreed I wasn’t born here and there’s countries where FB is a must. Everyone is in there, including finding jobs. And it’s the only way to contact them, I guess it’s akin to wechat in China. Thankfully it’s not integrated to everything in the USA.
Precisely I have some international fossil collecting and selling friends as Facebook/Messenger is the only way to keep in touch for them. Texting is not a way, email can be used but it is not much.
 
I have a fake fb account to sell stuff. The marketplace is really good plus you can look at peoples profile. I don’t have anyone on there and it’s only on my iPad.
 
People need to get off their high horse when complaining about Facebook and their tracking activities. Macrumours tracks your activities and there is nothing you can do about it. You either accept the cookies that track you or if you disagree you simply do not use the website. And yes, there is nothing you can do about it if Macrumours class the activity as 'Essential' because only some things in a cookie can be disabled. Anything that is classed as 'Essential' can not be disabled. I would guess that 99.9% of the websites in the internet do this, they have an 'Essential' section of a tracking cookie that cannot be disabled and as yet I do not see people complaining about Macrumours activites.

In another thread on the subject, a forum member posted a screen shot of their mobile phone showing that when conntecting to Macrumours website, there was 35 (i think it was 35) tracking instances registered by an app the member uses to see what is going on behind the scenes. So people, engage your brains properly before you spout of your tirade against Facebook and others because websites are just as bad as well.

Yep all our free online internet went this way ages ago. Government and companies tracking us for the “free services” LOL

Yes today my viewing the forums on this subject (two threads). Showed that Macrumors had 108 wanting to track me that safari on iPadOS 13.3 prevented.

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You guys realize that you don't need to wait for Apple to enable this feature, right? You can go into Facebook and disable ad tracking right now with a few clicks.
Eh I don’t have a real account or an account in my phone although I have fb stock I bought when it was low 😆 I think as a business of tracking peoples interest and selling ads I would want people to have an option to not be track easily.
 
I'm completely with Apple on this one. Why should ANY company (including Apple) be able to "monitor" me...that is the same as "tracking" me without me knowing and accepting it. I (we) should be told what and when they are tracking and given the choice to opt out....or better the choice to opt in. The only reason FB is so upset is that it will hurt their profits.
 
TBC, this is a good thing Apple is doing. Their practice is just hypocritical and self-serving. Of course, they're a corporation, and so many people here are fans of a corporation. So let's cheer about how much better Apple is than FB.
Also TBC, no one argues that Apple ignores its own interests, or that they're fallen down a few times. But the irrefutable truth is that versus competitors they're way out front in matters of privacy and security, and the reason is obvious: their profit model does not depend on monetizing your data. People who point to exceptions use them to create false equivalencies and whataboutisms in some weird effort to obfuscate the truth: Apple is just better at this and more committed to it than competitors. It is not hypocritical to stand for privacy and security while you're taking steps in that direction yourself, even if those steps aren't as fast or complete as some people demand in that instant. They're starting from a better position and moving in the right direction. And if someone likes Android, or Gmail, or Alexa, or a third party mail client, or WhatsApp, or whatever else, for whatever convenience reasons they perceive, fine, but they shouldn't kid themselves that the Apple ecosystem is a superior space if you don't want someone selling off knowledge about you.
 
I would trust Apple over Facebook any day of the week. At least they aren't trying to track everyone everywhere they go, and sell that data to the highest, and lowest, bidder.
 
Imagine if that same explanation was used for its own default apps and apps that are automatically installed.

TBC, this is a good thing Apple is doing. Their practice is just hypocritical and self-serving. Of course, they're a corporation, and so many people here are fans of a corporation. So let's cheer about how much better Apple is than FB.
Baloney. There is a minimum level of a user experience that Apple is aiming for, which is why it is collecting data about you. That doesn't stop someone for example, for activating their iphone without an apple id...which is definitely doable.

However, Apple has a broader objective in mind with this data collection and it is not to sell off user data. That doesn't mean they are perfect in that regard, nor do perceived issues with their privacy and security model mean they are hypocritical or self-serving. That is just some internet talking points.
 
Also TBC, no one argues that Apple ignores its own interests, or that they're fallen down a few times. But the irrefutable truth is that versus competitors they're way out front in matters of privacy and security, and the reason is obvious: their profit model does not depend on monetizing your data. People who point to exceptions use them to create false equivalencies and whataboutisms in some weird effort to obfuscate the truth: Apple is just better at this and more committed to it than competitors. It is not hypocritical to stand for privacy and security while you're taking steps in that direction yourself, even if those steps aren't as fast or complete as some people demand in that instant. They're starting from a better position and moving in the right direction. And if someone likes Android, or Gmail, or Alexa, or a third party mail client, or WhatsApp, or whatever else, for whatever convenience reasons they perceive, fine, but they shouldn't kid themselves that the Apple ecosystem is a superior space if you don't want someone selling off knowledge about you.

Yes, Apple is certainly better with privacy, which is why I mentioned that was a good thing. I was commenting more on, "it believes users have the right to make choices about the permissions they grant to apps." Using privacy as a reason for control when your profit model does't depend so much on monetizing data while also reducing control for their own users when it's in their interest is hypocritical. That includes restrictions on setting default apps when some apps clearly work better than their own in that superior ecosystem.

In some ways, they're better than competitors, but limiting your focus to defer to false equivalencies when there is legitimate criticism just helps folks lionize a two trillion dollar corporation. People here are quick to talk about how great Apple is because some of their practices don't suck as bad as other predatory companies, but it's rare to see comparisons of Apple's vs Google's international (direct or indirect) labor practices, among others. Apple may be better with privacy, but when so many here cheer them on as champions, they're deceiving themselves about so many of their practices.
 
Facebook is making a big deal out of nothing. you can just do your business as normal but try your best to persuade your consumer to allow tracing coming from Facebook.
 
Precisely I have some international fossil collecting and selling friends as Facebook/Messenger is the only way to keep in touch for them. Texting is not a way, email can be used but it is not much.
Ross is that you ?
 
A Mark Zuckerberg Production everyone. So of course it involves awkward whining that stems from not knowing how to read the room. What a metric ton of you-know-what. Facebook should be investigated heavily, criminally, and broken up.
 
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