I also have AdGuard installed, so maybe fewer of them are actually able to see me?
Edit: AdGuard wasn't running and after turning it on I still only have 3 blocked trackers.
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Edit: AdGuard wasn't running and after turning it on I still only have 3 blocked trackers.
You guys realize that you don't need to wait for Apple to enable this feature, right? You can go into Facebook and disable ad tracking right now with a few clicks.
Precisely why I stay on FB, I am a co-admin of several fossil sites, and a member of some other groups that allow me daily contact with friends nationally and internationally. A lot of my international friends (in my case fossil collectors and dealers) are only available to me via Facebook and Messenger. They do not have iPhones. (Often cheap androids) so iMessage is out, yeah I can text but some of them like a good friend in Morocco for example do not have that as they travel, use different phones and the texting not a solid option but Facebook messenger allows us instant contact as needed. So I remain with facebook until a better alternative is available.
Precisely I have some international fossil collecting and selling friends as Facebook/Messenger is the only way to keep in touch for them. Texting is not a way, email can be used but it is not much.
I have a fake fb account to sell stuff. The marketplace is really good plus you can look at peoples profile. I don’t have anyone on there and it’s only on my iPad.
Yep all our free online internet went this way ages ago. Government and companies tracking us for the “free services” LOL
Yes today my viewing the forums on this subject (two threads). Showed that Macrumors had 108 wanting to track me that safari on iPadOS 13.3 prevented.
Eh I don’t have a real account or an account in my phone although I have fb stock I bought when it was low 😆 I think as a business of tracking peoples interest and selling ads I would want people to have an option to not be track easily.
I'm completely with Apple on this one. Why should ANY company (including Apple) be able to "monitor" me...that is the same as "tracking" me without me knowing and accepting it. I (we) should be told what and when they are tracking and given the choice to opt out....or better the choice to opt in. The only reason FB is so upset is that it will hurt their profits.
Also TBC, no one argues that Apple ignores its own interests, or that they're fallen down a few times. But the irrefutable truth is that versus competitors they're way out front in matters of privacy and security, and the reason is obvious: their profit model does not depend on monetizing your data. People who point to exceptions use them to create false equivalencies and whataboutisms in some weird effort to obfuscate the truth: Apple is just better at this and more committed to it than competitors. It is not hypocritical to stand for privacy and security while you're taking steps in that direction yourself, even if those steps aren't as fast or complete as some people demand in that instant. They're starting from a better position and moving in the right direction. And if someone likes Android, or Gmail, or Alexa, or a third party mail client, or WhatsApp, or whatever else, for whatever convenience reasons they perceive, fine, but they shouldn't kid themselves that the Apple ecosystem is a superior space if you don't want someone selling off knowledge about you.
I would trust Apple over Facebook any day of the week. At least they aren't trying to track everyone everywhere they go, and sell that data to the highest, and lowest, bidder.
Baloney. There is a minimum level of a user experience that Apple is aiming for, which is why it is collecting data about you. That doesn't stop someone for example, for activating their iphone without an apple id...which is definitely doable.Imagine if that same explanation was used for its own default apps and apps that are automatically installed.
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TBC, this is a good thing Apple is doing. Their practice is just hypocritical and self-serving. Of course, they're a corporation, and so many people here are fans of a corporation. So let's cheer about how much better Apple is than FB.
However, Apple has a broader objective in mind with this data collection and it is not to sell off user data. That doesn't mean they are perfect in that regard, nor do perceived issues with their privacy and security model mean they are hypocritical or self-serving. That is just some internet talking points.
Yes, Apple is certainly better with privacy, which is why I mentioned that was a good thing. I was commenting more on, "it believes users have the right to make choices about the permissions they grant to apps." Using privacy as a reason for control when your profit model does't depend so much on monetizing data while also reducing control for their own users when it's in their interest is hypocritical. That includes restrictions on setting default apps when some apps clearly work better than their own in that superior ecosystem.
In some ways, they're better than competitors, but limiting your focus to defer to false equivalencies when there is legitimate criticism just helps folks lionize a two trillion dollar corporation. People here are quick to talk about how great Apple is because some of their practices don't suck as bad as other predatory companies, but it's rare to see comparisons of Apple's vs Google's international (direct or indirect) labor practices, among others. Apple may be better with privacy, but when so many here cheer them on as champions, they're deceiving themselves about so many of their practices.
