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Anyone who blanket believes Apple (or any company) regarding anything is a fool. And yes, I got the shot x4, but still think something will come out later showing us there is a problem with it.
 
The biggest concern I have about restricting crash detection to public roads is that a crash that is not on a road as in an off-road vehicle might be when you most need it.
 
Good thing I can comprehend the written word.

Focus on this part:

“It wasn't connected to Bluetooth or CarPlay, which would have indicated the car was in use, and the vehicles might not have traveled enough distance prior to the crash to indicate driving. Had the iPhone received those extra indicators—and had its GPS shown the cars were on a real road—the likelihood of an alert would have been greater, he said.”

Seems pretty clear that Bluetooth connection is necessary to get good crash detection.

Try again.
You still fail to comprehend the explanation given by Apple in the original post.
 
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I was in a car crash a week ago. The alert worked immediately and I am happy it did. No complaints about that here.
 
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Techrax did a video regarding Crash detection and it took quite a lot before it triggered. I think he wrecked that Mercury a few times before the crash was severe enough to trigger the alert:

 
So what I’m reading here is:

“if you drive an old junker that doesn’t have at least Bluetooth, you’re clearly not an Apple customer, and we dont care about you.”

Got it. Thanks Apple
Another reason to buy apple car
 
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Isn't the Apple Car supposed to be something you rent like an Uber or car share? Ownership after 2030 is supposed to be dead.

You can add Bluetooth to any old car, even an old Studebaker if you get an aftermarket head unit. Many resto-modders have accomplished that. In the TechRax video, he was demoing it on an old Panther Platform car that had no bluetooth, just the phone strapped to the seat. It worked without bluetooth.
 
So ideal conditions for Apple crash detection are while moving on a mapped road with CarPlay enabled in a car with the windows closed with working airbags. I don't remember that part of the presentation last month, I must not have been paying attention.
 
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Would have been wise to verify with Apple what triggers crash detection. What a waste of time.
 
Well, I know the Apple Watch 5 detected anything like using a hammer, to slamming your fist onto a desk, to swatting a fly, as a fall, so I'm guessing any sudden stop might false positive this as well.

It was bad enough on the Watch to disable the feature which of course defeats the point of it, but it obviously wasn't working correctly where I had any faith in it helping in the long run.
 
I am not sure if this 'feature' is meant to help in the event of incapacitation or just to let someone know they've been in an accident.


If the latter, I think the obvious clues exist: broken windshield, wrecked front spewing coolant and oil, and possibly deployed airbags would be pretty blatant. I think it's sorta funny the alert says 'it looks like you've been in a crash' yeah, I think the fact my car's wrecked is pretty obvious, I certainly would have never guessed, Apple. Thanks!
 
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10 seconds? that's quite short. Better than my Galaxy Watch's 3 seconds it gave when it also thought me slamming my fist onto a table in frustration triggered its fall detection. That wasn't easy to explain to the 911 operator or my mother who thought I was lying dead somewhere. I couldn't gesture out of it in time.

Is anyone else a bit frightened that our tech can do this without our permission?
 
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What is going to happen if a person wearing one of these Apple watches that has crash detection, crashes their car, is rendered unconcious but the Apple watch crash detection did not activate because it did not consider the crash 'severe' enough and the driver dies because the car happens to have crashed in a location where others are not able to see the crash and thus emergency services are not dispatched to save the driver. Is Apple going to turn round and say that the conditions of the car crash did not meet the conditions of the crash detection hardware/software?
 
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10 seconds? that's quite short. Better than my Galaxy Watch's 3 seconds it gave when it also thought me slamming my fist onto a table in frustration triggered its fall detection. That wasn't easy to explain to the 911 operator or my mother who thought I was lying dead somewhere. I couldn't gesture out of it in time.

Is anyone else a bit frightened that our tech can do this without our permission?

You realize you can turn it on or off, right?

Like fall detection, it’s optional.
 
What is going to happen if a person wearing one of these Apple watches that has crash detection, crashes their car, is rendered unconcious but the Apple watch crash detection did not activate because it did not consider the crash 'severe' enough and the driver dies because the car happens to have crashed in a location where others are not able to see the crash and thus emergency services are not dispatched to save the driver. Is Apple going to turn round and say that the conditions of the car crash did not meet the conditions of the crash detection hardware/software?
The same question remains unanswered with Apple Watch Fall Detection. We hear all about the times it saved lives, but what of the times it never considered the fall 'severe' enough to warrant going off? We need answers.

I had to disable fall detection on both Galaxy and Apple watch due to the false alarms that became quite common, one time as said having to explain to the dispatcher why it called 911. Then my mother. I work in an environment where falling is quite possible so disabling the feature kinda defeats the point. The one time I expected it to detect a fall was last Winter where I slipped on ice and fell flat on my butt. It really hurt, but I was ok. But not a peep from the watch. But apparently swatting a fly, clapping hands together or banging one's fist on a table in anger is enough to wake it up. At least the Apple Watch gives a minute to turn it off over the literally 3 seconds Galaxy gave me.
 
Reading through the comments, I feel like a lot of people expect an additional safety feature to replace... common sense.

Kinda reminds me of the beginnings of satnav when people would drive into lakes because they followed the instructions verbatim.

Some of you people out there are really trying to find every possible way to criticize/blame Apple, aren't you?

Like... what did you do in the past when in a (severe) accident before crash detection*? Continue to keep this option in your (mental) tool box. Consider Apple's crash detaction as a backup option.

It's really not that hard...

*like... complaining about backing up from a driveway in an older car (which doesn't have BT/CP) and getting t-boned? Yeah....the Apple Watch wouldn't have saved you from that to begin with...

holy cow some of these arguments. Seriously.
 
Does anyone else find it ironic that the iPhone can detect when you've been in an accident now...since people being distracted by their mobile phones is responsible for so many accidents nowadays? :oops:
 
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