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Apple Retail Stores Making Preparations for OS X Lion Launch Next Week?
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Personally, I fall under item #2. I'm still anxious for the release, because the sooner it comes out, the sooner the dust will settle. Looking forward to using Lion in August.
Personally, I fall under item #2. I'm still anxious for the release, because the sooner it comes out, the sooner the dust will settle. Looking forward to using Lion in August.
I'm running the Lion GM here and compared to previous releases it is a whole lot more reliable to the point that I actually feel confident enough to use it for both my laptop and desktop computer.
Side note: It is amazing how people talk about how 'great' previous releases were but ignore but ignore just how much of a PITA they were when they originally appeared. Take 10.4 and how when 10.5 was released there were people on this very forum saying, "oh, 10.4 was so much more reliable" ignoring the fact that they moved to Intel Mac when it was sitting at around 10.4.4 (thus avoided the x.0 blues). Compared to previous releases, 10.6 and 10.7 have been a heck of a lot more reliable than 10.3/10.4/10.5 when they first arrived on the scene with 10.3 being the worse (anyone remember the oxford chipset corrupt bug?).
Reminds me very much of the old geiser talking about the 'good old days' whilst ignoring what the 'old days' were actually like - the reality is if you've been with Mac OS X since 10.0 was released there has been an upward improvement in the quality of x.0 releases and Lion is pretty much at the stage where you can feel pretty confident to run it from day one - the question is whether third parties have pulled finger and tested their products (and issued updates) or are they going to do an Adobe and force an upgrade on end users instead of providing patches.
Edit: Btw, I'm running Adobe CS5 'Web Premium' Edition and everything is working beautifully - Office 2011 has no problems along with the various OmniGroup products I have as well.
I wonder...
Wonder how many of the trolls and nay-sayers have even used a Mac. Seems like the biggest critics have never touched one. I've been a Windows user, developer, and IT support since Windows 3.0, and when I want to relax or be productive, I always fallback to my Macs. Windows 7 is a good OS, but it ain't OS X. Apple bring it on. I'm ready for the latest big cat. I am confident there will be very few if any issues. But then again, I never have issues as I always prep for a major release by checking permissions, etc.
Wonder how many of the trolls and nay-sayers have even used a Mac. Seems like the biggest critics have never touched one. I've been a Windows user, developer, and IT support since Windows 3.0, and when I want to relax or be productive, I always fallback to my Macs. Windows 7 is a good OS, but it ain't OS X. Apple bring it on. I'm ready for the latest big cat. I am confident there will be very few if any issues. But then again, I never have issues as I always prep for a major release by checking permissions, etc.
Hmmm, on my PC, Windows 7 updates itself once in a while and I do not need to prep for anything. That's what I call - being productive
I can only speak for myself and Snow Leopard GM is really better than Lion GM on my test Mac. I used Time Machine to go back to the Snow Leopard GM.
Hmmm, on my PC, Windows 7 updates itself once in a while and I do not need to prep for anything. That's what I call - being productive
Funny, Windows updater is the most obnoxious thing about it. It has to restart the computer like 14 times and makes you wait when its starting up and when you shut down and comes on at the most inconvenient times. I was watching a Starcraft 2 tournament and one of the players had his Windows update come on and restart his computer in the middle of a game. Then you install them, and the next time you start the computer it has 2 more updates. Seems like there's always 2 more.
But anyway, back to OSX Lion. Arg. Can't believe they are dropping Rosetta support, but whatever. I hope that's not a big deal. They removed Front Row...uh...what was that supposed to accomplish? I'm running GM on 2 comps, and the features are completely useless. The airdrop works ok, but could be better. If they asked me, I could come up with lots of better improvements.
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Mind my sarcasm but wow - I am so awestruck by your depth of analysis.
Do us a favor and do a clean install with lion compatible apps from reputable vendors then com back to comment on the supposed lack of quality in the Lion GM.
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Mind my sarcasm but wow - I am so awestruck by your depth of analysis.
Do us a favor and do a clean install with lion compatible apps from reputable vendors then com back to comment on the supposed lack of quality in the Lion GM.
Then the user was clearly an idiot because you can set windows update to sleep, to download and install later, even not bother you or decide when you will update your computer. Also he hadn't patched his computer for a time if what you are saying is true. Who does that on a windows system? Apple's update program is also lame as a unix system shouldn't have to reboot.
People use "fanboy" here the way people use "Socialist" when referring to Democrats. In both cases, ignorance reigns and they have no idea what they're talking about.
You do realize that to the general user, it's really not obvious how to stop windows from trying to automatically reboot your machine, or have to constantly getting the reboot prompt on a windows update for which the user has to respond to keep it from updating. Microsoft hid that functionality well for the common user. Since accessing the windows updater is so obvious, they really should give the user the option (in the prompt) to not do the update and then allow them to stop the pester messages by saying when they are ready to update, access the windows updater in the task bar with a simple windows bubble message. That way rebooting is in the user's hands to activate without having to make the user have to dive through their various system settings programs trying to find where and how to stop the prompts. Since obviously windows doesn't want to tell them where they can do it. This is simple UI 101 stuff.
Though I do like windows 7 as a whole. I just have a general distaste for any program that tries to wrestle control from the user. Regardless of who is doing it. The auto reboot stuff is almost akin to what web sites do when they try to hijack your computer. Highly unusual for Microsoft, but it is there. Yes, even the web site Hijacking of your computer can be stopped, but at the same level of difficulty. The workaround is put in a place that the average user wouldn't find.
Here's the actual real Windows 7 automatic rebooting fix to make it act like this while still having automatic updates.
1.Click Start -> Run
2.Enter “gpedit.msc”
3.Go to Local Computer Policy -> Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Windows Update
4.Double-click on “No auto-restart for scheduled Automatic Update installation”
5.Enable it!
6.Reboot the computer
^ Yep. Real user friendly there. Let's see the average person find that out without googling all around to find expert advice. And the real kicker is, not all versions of Windows 7 have this method. Yep. If you have Home Premium, you wouldn't even have the program to do this one. Instead, it's poke around Registry time. For those users, it's similar to trying to unhack away some web-page adware thing or something.
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How would this work. The fact that we are purchasing Lion from the App Store. Does that mean every future update for Lion will come from the App Store instead of updating from "Software Update..."?
Nope, it comes through the App Store. Anything purchased through the App Store update through it.
So those that acquire Lion illegally might not be able to install Lion updates? IMO, that would be a good thing.
Er, yeah, that's exactly what I am saying. So why are all the fanboys here saying that will not be the case and shouting down anyone who disagrees? It's pathetic really.
You're kidding yourself if you think that (a) hackers will not be able to find a work around to anything Apple sets up and (b) Apple won't provide a way of installing and updating 10.7 offline.
If you was reading this thread i already did that and had a bunch of problems. Get of your high horse, pal.
Been running with the GM for a week. No real problems. A few programs had to be reinstalled. Mission Control is cool, but not terribly useful to me. Same with Launchpad but I can see why some users will find great value in it. I had to put scrolling back the way it was on 10.6, drove me crazy. Resume is plain awesome (and a wee bit embarrassing if you are not careful). Versions will save my ass on numerous times I predict. Mail - eh. it works I suppose. Speed is decent, not quite up to 10.6.8 on some things. Startups seem faster though. Safari is blazing. Very impressed there. I still have my old setup on a different partition. If Lion screws me (no indication it will), then I'll just go back to SL. On the whole I am pleased with Lion.
I think your beach ball looks like its' about to crash...
I think you're on the wrong forum dude - Ubuntu is at:
http://www.ubuntu.com
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