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Probably going to wait for the 2020 Ice Lake SP model. No PCIe 4.0 support for this round and I always have a policy of not buying the first-year model. Let them work out the kinks (and the price) first.

pci express 4 will be a Game Changer
 
When the software developers see the price of the new Mac Pro and they realize few will buy it, will they even bother to develop software for it?

What are you even talking about? Complete rubbish. You design for MacOS and it work... and they rolled out a big list of involved companies adding specific code for it
 
5999 for 8 core Xeon with 32gb ram, 256 ssd and ****** gpu? LOL Apple you are deluded. 5k for a screen? LOL

They're really insane with the pricing. Their Macbook 'Pro's are non upgradeable and waay overpriced. I think we should have known this was coming but I was hoping they'd have one foot in reality. My aging Mac Pro (circa 2010) has 32gigs of RAM, 40TB of expandable storage, blu ray writable drive and a current video card so I'm good for now. I love that there is an upgrade path for me though. Maybe I can score a used one and upgrade it someday. The cost though. Holey smoke. Even an identically configured PC is a 1/4 of the cost. I'm fine with paying more for Apple, but that much more? 1K for a stand? WTF. So happy they designed an actual Pro machine that is somewhat upgrade-able though.
 
Happy to see a serious pro machine back in the line up. I know a few professional animators who moved away from Apple because of this. Looks like a tribute to the pre-trashcan pro. Aesthetically I will reserve my judgement until I see it in the flesh.
 
It’s about function over form.
This device looks a lot like the G5, and the G5 was gorgeous.
Exactly! Its functional "ugliness" is actually beautiful to my old eyes. This is a server quality rig in desktop form. Attach that new $4999 monitor to it, place it under a desk or in a cabinet, and let this baby do its thing -FUNCTION!
 
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They're really insane with the pricing. Their Macbook 'Pro's are non upgradeable and waay overpriced. I think we should have known this was coming but I was hoping they'd have one foot in reality. My aging Mac Pro (circa 2010) has 32gigs of RAM, 40TB of expandable storage, blu ray writable drive and a current video card so I'm good for now. I love that there is an upgrade path for me though. Maybe I can score a used one and upgrade it someday. The cost though. Holey smoke. Even an identically configured PC is a 1/4 of the cost. I'm fine with paying more for Apple, but that much more? 1K for a stand? WTF. So happy they designed an actual Pro machine that is somewhat upgrade-able though.

Again, it's not an identically configured PC if it uses a consumer CPU instead of a server class one. An older Xeon 6134 CPU with similar speeds but "only" handles" 768GB of RAM as opposed to the 1.5TB of the new version has a MSRP of $2200. That's already a third of the cost for an older generation one. How are you going to get it to 1/4 of the cost with the rest of the parts?
 
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I love how people think that they have a gaming computer processor and think it is a workstation processor. Like saying my GMC 6
cylinder is the same as your DD16 semi engine :)

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Proud owner of a 2008 Mac Pro, glad to see an easily (?) expandable Pro return. $6k is a tough entry point but I don't mind being a late adopter (got the 2008 in 2011).

14,000 W power supply? Goodness!
That is a great idea - buy one of these things in about 2-3 years at a more affordable price, then upgrade as needed (if it is, indeed, easily upgradable at the component level). The cheese grater is reborn!
 
We are not complaining about the machine. IT is great actually really nice. We are complaining about the obscene ridiculous pricing.
More than double the price than the original Mac Pro, it is completely disconnect from reality.
And paying 6k for a machine that ships with 8 core and 256 GB ssd is not PRO, it is a rip off...
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How much should a Xeon workstation like the 2019 Mac Pro cost? What do equivalent workstations cost?
 
All the idiots stating that the Mac Pro is only for high end pro animation studios and the like. I have always had Mac towers, I love OS X but don’t like the iMac form or MacBook. Apple always had a base entry tower for designers like myself G3, G4, G5, Mac Pro 3,4,5. They were affordable, expandable, etc. However Apple are now only interested in the people willing and able to spend 1000 bucks on a sodding monitor stand. Screw you too Apple!
 
Maybe this is a really bad comparison, but, my boyfriend bought £6,000 worth of PC. It has 18 cores, 128gb of ram and 2GB on-motherboard storage as standard, and some ridiculously overpowered GPU with Liquid cooling.

I’m not anti Apple in the slightest, but this thing is overpriced by a factor of about 6.

It's actually a great comparison that show's people are paying a huge tax for wanting a mac vs a pc. I don't believe it's the PC and all of the specs you listed that's the program. It's the WINDOWS software. People are willing to pay the MAC premium price in order to avoid the headaches that Window's come across. (Just a personal opinion based on personal experience within the industry I work in.)
 
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who is this machine's target audience?? billionaire video editors??

Most companies aren't out there spending 50K on a single station....

Serious editors/colorists are.
It's what they're using. For all the people here saying that this monitor is for pros.. pros are using 12-SDI in their workflow, they cannot use this monitor because it uses consumer-grade IO.

Not necessarily. I color correct with dual 5K displays over TB3. DaVinci Resolve works fine with or without SDI. Their ultralink cards can output to TB3 as well.
 
That is not a comparable Xeon Processor. That one was released in Q3 2017 and is actually slower:
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...n-gold-6130-processor-22m-cache-2-10-ghz.html

The comparable Xeon Processor of that year is the 6134: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...old-6134-processor-24-75m-cache-3-20-ghz.html

That one is $400+ more in MSRP and it's still slower and older than the one Apple is going to use.

That does not really change much. Dell configurator adds $363 when switching to 6134. But Dell's memory and GPU are vastly superior. Not to mention that it's a dual CPU workstations. Those usually cost way more than the single socket ones.
 
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