or an eSATA card and a OWC Mercury Qx2 - it also works great.
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Apple Reveals All-New Mac Pro With Up to 28-Core Processor and 1.5TB of RAM, Starting at $5,999
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or an eSATA card and a OWC Mercury Qx2 - it also works great.
Finally Apple listened to pro users, I’m glad but...
a. Expandable means making a machine starting with basic configuration at a logical point. Initial price should have been lower.
b. Expandable means it expands with all possible options. Nvidia is banned. I need Nvidia, since version 9 of Keyshot (Most favorable renderer ever) will support GPU (fresh news) but only from Nvidia
c. Apple Monitor at €5000. No way! No way! P3 is limited to AdobeRgb at green-cyan region. And brightness uniformity is way more important than fancy HDR. Eizos are way superior and trustworthy, I have a 10 year EIZO monitor and dE is still below 1. Also Eizo have built in calibrator.
d. Presenting professional equipment in a less lifestyle show would be much more convincing
a. Expandable means making a machine starting with basic configuration at a logical point. Initial price should have been lower.
b. Expandable means it expands with all possible options. Nvidia is banned. I need Nvidia, since version 9 of Keyshot (Most favorable renderer ever) will support GPU (fresh news) but only from Nvidia
c. Apple Monitor at €5000. No way! No way! P3 is limited to AdobeRgb at green-cyan region. And brightness uniformity is way more important than fancy HDR. Eizos are way superior and trustworthy, I have a 10 year EIZO monitor and dE is still below 1. Also Eizo have built in calibrator.
d. Presenting professional equipment in a less lifestyle show would be much more convincing
PCIe 5 was just completed and is on Intel's roadmap for 2021. It would not be surprising if Apple waited for that for the next Mac Pro, assuming they do not wait another 6 years before updating it or choose to abandon it altogether.
My 2010 Mac Pro has done me very well and I'm still running it as my main machine to this day. Looking at this beast, I expect this new one will carry me for a another decade and I will keep the old one running as long as I can. So despite the high price (my 2010 was around £6500 with all drives and Max RAM) that makes really good value and a no brainer as a professional tool and investment.
As a customer since 1994 I had thought Apple had given up on us. I was so wrong! And they really did listen!
As a customer since 1994 I had thought Apple had given up on us. I was so wrong! And they really did listen!
If you're a sound enthusiast and you spend 6-8 grand to run 1000 tracks of audio and then monitor with that ****** DAC, you've got problems.
it's very important but I could see this computer inspiring a port over to the AMD hardware
In order of importance:
low volume, proprietary graphics modules, artisanal chassis design.
You're going to get a decade out of this box that's a relatively small investment for any sort of business. It's certainly going to be less than your rent over that period of time.
I still think the version just before the trash can was the prettiest looking of all.
I actually have a working g5 version of that thing waiting to be gutted and a custom pc built. That would require I stop dragging my heels and actually do it. I don't get the game time I used to a decade ago so it's tough to justify a grand in parts that wouldn't get the use they deserve.
I actually have a working g5 version of that thing waiting to be gutted and a custom pc built. That would require I stop dragging my heels and actually do it. I don't get the game time I used to a decade ago so it's tough to justify a grand in parts that wouldn't get the use they deserve.
You must be mistaken, these are Xeon Workstation processors not Intel i3 processors, what you must be thinking of, looks at specs, they are not designed the same as the low end processors.
Nice box. I'd love to get one but, unfortunately, I'm one of those pro users, that doesn't happen to be a video editor.
Ashame Apple doesn't understand/care about CUDAs importance in scientific computing
Ashame Apple doesn't understand/care about CUDAs importance in scientific computing
Well, that is the only thing that sort of stuck out as a sore thumb when I read the spec's. But here's the deal on this machine. If it is, as billed, really easy to upgrade, swap, and repair various components - including storage - you should buy the low end model for 6 grand, then work on configuring it to your desire for the next several years. Your (and my) first upgrade would be SSD storage. I think they should spec even the low end config of a machine like this to at least a TB SSD - kind of reminds me of what they do with the low end iPhones - spec them to 16 or 32 GB storage, totally inadequate for high end photography and sound storage on a high dollar smart phone.
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I'm gonna ask this one more time: Why don't you install cuda compatible cards, run linux on it and SSH to it with your current machine. Isn't that what the industry does already?
wow finally a pro that looks like a pro.
though that cheese grinder....like WHY?
i wonder if there are some real engineering/techinical reasons for going with that cheese grinder design??
Cooling and sound. It is actually quite clever
The question is - do you trust Apple to update this regularly - they won't be selling many.
The $6,000 base price isn't the problem - it is what you get for that $6,000.
PCIe 3.
8 cores/16 threads
2 year old sub-200 dollar consumer video card.
If it was PCIe 4, a 16 core CPU, and a WX5100 (workstation version of the 580), then it would be priced right.
That MPX video is for the birds - It makes me wonder if Apple actually knows what AMD is doing GPU software-wise.
If I got one of these, I'd stuff it with WX5100 - the AMD ProRender engine would see all of them (and the CPU and system ram) as 1.
Sounds like Keyshot is just a guilty for only supporting Nvidia as Apple is for only supportin AMD. That being said, I don't think anything is confirmed/denied about Nividia support unless I missed it.
I don't think programmers are the target for this machine though. It seems they have content creators in mind.
No, I don't do that ONLY for sound - I want high quality sound as an option with my high dollar machine, which can also do many other things. That's why I would buy it rather than just a nice sound system. If I could buy a really nice Ferrari or Lamborghini auto, I'd also like to have it come with high end quality sound wired in. Does that mean I shelled out $500 or more grand for the sound alone? No. I wanted the sound as part of the total quality package. How is that hard to fathom?
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Video content creators, not audio creators. This is overkill for audio (except for high end studios). Perhaps they will come out with a "video lite" version for us Logic users. If not....tricked out Mac Mini or iMac. But as a "pro" machine...it is all that and more. Beast!!!
Edit: Ah I see;
I guess... I mean, they're clearly selling it as a bare bones machine because they want it modular. As someone in the sound industry, I can't see anyone really accepting any built in dac for any high fi work or playback. You'd need an entirely separate power supply.
They are on the side holes too, just angled in a little. It's a nice quirk and i think maybe a little playfully intentional.