No one doubts is a great Machine, though we are all thrilled about the obscene price. Over 250% what the old Mac Pro used to cost. And ships with 8 core and 256 GB SSD....for 6K is a complete rip off.
FYI with time tech prices go down, not up.
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Apple Reveals All-New Mac Pro With Up to 28-Core Processor and 1.5TB of RAM, Starting at $5,999
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No one doubts is a great Machine, though we are all thrilled about the obscene price. Over 250% what the old Mac Pro used to cost. And ships with 8 core and 256 GB SSD....for 6K is a complete rip off.
FYI with time tech prices go down, not up.
I REALLY like the overall design but was unsure when I first saw it and even a little thrown by it.
After a closer look I think it's a masterpiece of design and it's great too see Apple back in the game when most had given up hope.
I personally would have found at least 2 internal SATA drive bays as preferable. i like to keep things contained and have as few external boxes as possible.
Could it be possible as part of the MPX expansion modules? I don't need all that Graphics/Video power and would find it really useful to swap for storage space.
After a closer look I think it's a masterpiece of design and it's great too see Apple back in the game when most had given up hope.
I personally would have found at least 2 internal SATA drive bays as preferable. i like to keep things contained and have as few external boxes as possible.
Could it be possible as part of the MPX expansion modules? I don't need all that Graphics/Video power and would find it really useful to swap for storage space.
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It’s an observation. And, yes, I’ll make a humorous observation about the continuous negativity on the forums here.
Inflation would account for roughly 20% of the increase so $3500. That still doesn’t account for $2500. Apple is really charging people for the enclosure, motherboard and future expandability which is there since the cost of an 8-core Xeon, 32 GB RAM, Radeon Pro 580X and 256 GB SSD would probably come to just $2500. An octa-core W-2145 had a retail of $1100 and that’s the problem. Apple would move tons of Mac Pros without using server grade CPUs and ECC RAM. Some need that 24/7 no downtime piece of mind but most people would be fine with top of the line consumer i9s and name brand DDR4 RAM.
The MBPs otoh are fairly priced at $1799 and $2399.
So I can not put a RTX GPU in this Mac Pro? So basically what Apple is telling me if I wanted to upgrade my graphics I have to buy a Apple selected GPU? Or can we put our own like the cMP? Currently I have a Titan RTX but I would like to use it on the new Mac Pro can I do that?
I would have to agree, with 6 grand you should get minimum of 1TB SSD and Vega Vii out of box. Seriously two years to build a similar box. It's disappointing that its out of range of many who would buy. They are a monopoly and that is the problem with this company.
Oh would people please stop with that self-absorbed "REAL" professional drivel?
I'm a real professional too, like many million others. However, not that many of us actually work in high-end audio/video production, and this machine and the new display are geared almost entirely towards that field.
These products are very good. I'm glad they exist and they will find their buyers, but they're definitely not what most real professionals would even look at, let alone buy. Even if we make a sh**t ton of money, that doesn't mean we would spend money on tools we don't need for our work.
Also, I have to say, the entry model has specs that don't look all that "professional" to me. A 256 GB SSD is utterly ludicrous.
I gotta admit the inside looks nicer than the outside. Those feet and the tubing look like something I can buy at Home Depot in the bathroom fixture aisle.
Yes, it's a very valid point, but I guess they figure they have the iMac Pro and iMac to cater to those markets, despite the lack of modularity. If you want the modularity you need to flip the premium for the base model Pro.
The market these are aimed at won't be put off by the price. I think it represents good value given my last Mac Pro a 2010 machine, is still going strong. It's paid for times over and works out at around £15 per week—that is incredible value and I work all these costs in to my own rates, so much so that I make money from my equipment alone with every job I do.
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I presume the SSD modules are the same bulk storage only (i.e. no controller) modules as used in the iMac Pro. AFAIK, there's no third party upgrade solution for them. Perhaps their use in the Pro will spur someone to develop such a product.
Sure, let’s talk about stock price, that’s all that matters. Who cares about users?
Xeons aren’t worth it unless they are. These parts have 64 PCIe lanes and 6-channel memory—and support 1.5TB of memory.
If you need a ton of I/O or RAM bandwidth, or your workload has a large in-memory requirement, it’s worth every penny of that $2000-3000 CPU.
There's also nothing to say that they couldn't utilize the same design a year from now and throw cheaper chips in.
This is fair however most of the audio engineers / recording studio people I know are happy to have the option to spend more on a Pro machine like this.
Yeah it would be nice to have a more stripped down tiers of it for cheaper but then we'd have people complaining "I wish they had something in the 3999 range that gives me x, and y but without z"
They can't possibly please everyone. Most people I know involved in serious music production either uses a MBP or Mac Mini and makes it work despite some inconveniences or will spend the $$$$ to have something that is almost limitless. A lot of them are still using the 2008-2012 Mac Pros and have been waiting for this.
So this means you can stop mentioning the lack of a new Mac Pro in almost every news thread. Hope you enjoy your $6,000 purchase.
It's expensive but the microphones audio professionals work with can be in this range. A good surround sound field recording rig is probably twice this much money.
Don’t be sorry. If you can’t afford a Xeon workstation and/or don’t need MacOS then you can get by for cheaper for sure.
Some people get by fine with just a $400 Windows laptop; as always, it depends on your requirements.
Today's Apple doesn't care about scientists. Their definition of pro users is video editing / media creation / photography, which are really not the highest demanding fields computational-power wise. :-(
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Because some people like to run Mac OS (which they run on all other machines at their work). So hard to grasp?
It's not hard to grasp and it'd be nice if it did but I'm just not sure it's fair to look at it and go "NO NVIDIA" when you probably could use it. I'm talking about machine learning and science applications of course.
They did release something that's inexpensive. It's the 2019 Mac Mini.
Besides, this $6,000 Mac Pro won't allow for off-the-shelf hardware upgrades beyond the memory. Just like a few other macs.
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Exactly. But if you can't afford that upgrade, clearly this type of workstation is NOT for you.
