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I hope the os is renamed macOSPro.

Would be fun watching the sad who get frothed up daily with a major case of the shakes when Apple uses "Pro" in product names, go ballistic with all-you-can-eat tiny moans when "Pro" is extended to the OS.
It's not like there's not standing for this already. Ever since Windows 2000 there's been a "Pro" version, even Windows 10 has a "Pro" skew,
 
I agree that Apple is trying too hard to announce a "major new OS" every year, and TBH, most of the new features could have been introduced with an "incremental update".

APFS is, IMHO, a true reason for a new OS. But stuff like Siri, AirDrop et all which has been announced in the past just to stay on par with iOS doesn't need a complete new OS which usually has many bugs when released.

Oh.. and Vulcan support this time please. Why force everyone to metal? Cannot both be used? Forcing Metal is keeping the majority of games on an ancient version of OpenGL.
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It's always interesting to think that Apple's testers are testing the new OS by visiting sites like this. Hello there, testers!
 
How has it been dumbed down?
macOS has been on a slow decline from being pretty sophisticated to on par with iOS. It is pretty sad. I think one of the biggest has been DiskUtil which went from being a powerful utility to something you would find in iOS. There is the lack of modern OpenGL support, graphics drivers, the push from Apple to herd us to a closed ecosystem where you can only install applications from the App Store.

How I miss Apple Computer, Inc.

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I hope they bring useful features if your don't have the latest iPhone, or an Apple Watch, or a MacBook with touch bar, or a paid iCloud account, or Apple Music, or latest ATV, or a use for Siri.
 
To me 10.12 was actually a bigger deal than 10.10-10.11. having universal clipboard and shared desktop / documents across devices is amazing.
 
Annual new releases is too frequent; every year we go through the process of waiting for updates so important software is compatible. Some key programs (for example, Mathematica) is still not fully working with Sierra.
 
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So, 10.13 for the geeks among us the APFS will be the highlight. But I wonder what the selling point will be for non-geeks.

Also, unifying IOS and macOS, actually I don't mind. I like using launchpad and I can see them move the file system more to the background.

But what I think that REALLY needs to be improved are their own iWork apps. I know it has a very limited budget because of being 'free' but man, a full fledged office killer, I would be so thrilled. for me that's THE software that can break the windows monopoly. too bad they don't seem to care.
 
Annual new releases is too frequent; every year we go through the process of waiting for updates so important software is compatible. Some key programs (for example, Mathematica) is still not fully working with Sierra.

And thats Apple's problem or the 3rd party software. Sierra did not change anything fundamental and no 3rd party developers had to rewrite their applications from ground up. If the developers of Mathematica had no time to fix the app in 6 months, then you should take this with them really... apologies if this comes across as rude, genuinely not intended.
 
So, 10.13 for the geeks among us the APFS will be the highlight.
APFS is used for file revision, so you can role back to a previous version should a bug be found and incremental updating of apps, that is only updating only the files in an app that have changed as opposed to updating the entire app. This all goes on under the hood. A user will not notice a difference. Your iPhone/Mac will not be faster. How is this a highlight if you can't physically see the benefits, when exactly will you be excited?. If anything it's a high-light for non-geeks as Apple can say "updates will be faster and there's less chance of your iPhone/Mac crashing"
 
Does anyone know why Apple would visit MacRumors with pre-release software? I guess it could be testing but it seems like it happens every year
 
A list of known trademarked names that have yet to be used: Redwood, Mammoth, California, Big Sur, Pacific, Diablo, Miramar, Rincon, Redtail, Condor, Grizzly, Farallon, Tiburon, Monterey, Skyline, Shasta, Mojave, Sequoia, Ventura, and Sonoma.

Trademarks and domain names shouldn't be allowed to be held hostage. If a trademark or domain name registrant doesn't use the name within a short time of acquiring it, he should forfeit it. Too many trademarks and domain names are held hostage by speculators, or to thwart competition. Apple, itself, had to pay an undisclosed ransom for a domain name similar to one they own and actually market with.

I also feel that common, pre-existing words and landmark names, like those in Apple's list, should not be protected—only unique word combinations or original words.
 
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IMO, hopefully not. I know a fair chunk of us think we want this but think it through: do we want to dummy down MacOS to be compatible with what iDevices can do or complicate iOS to better fit what whole computers can do? Full unification would involve such compromises. I know some of us look at Surface and think a Mac version of that is what we want but chat with people who really use Surface and see if they think duality built in is as great as spun in marketing focused on very select benefits.

No thanks. OSX has been dumbed down enough already. No unification necessary especially if that involves making OSX a closed ecosystem - downloading software only from the (Mac)AppStore.

Sierra was a very disappointing release. Hopefully 10.13 will be better.
I don't think he meant 'convergence', which I agree would not be desirable, but rather naming synchronicity as in

2017: iOS 11 and macOS 11,
2018: iOS 12 and macOS 12, and so on, but perhaps I'm wrong.

Care to comment Mad Mac Maniac?
 
Apple should really use this as an opportunity to unify. iOS 11 and macOS 11

I agree in that there are numerous inconsistencies in those apps that exist across both platforms. The behaviors, labels and capabilities should be identical and consistent regardless of the interface. Especially since Apple likes to brag that its mobile devices have "desktop computing power".
 
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