Apple Reveals 'Vision Pro' Headset and visionOS

[sunapple]

As someone who wears glasses, I'm honestly not quite sure if I wanna try this.. not exactly sure if it may affect my vision level in the long term or something. 🙃

I laughed when at some point prior in the presentation they announced a feature for iPhone/iPad that tells you when you have been staring at the screen for too long to prevent eye strain. But Apple Vision Pro can be "worn all day". Who would like to guinea pig this?

 

[kiwi45]

Can't innovate my a....

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

There are already a number if large business using headsets in their engineering and product depts… https://varjo.com/solutions/design-and-engineering/

In my line of engineering we push the boundaries but I wouldn’t sit in my office wearing one of these all day. Then again I work in automotive engineering and not software so this isn’t aimed at engineers like me.

 

[Iconoclysm]

Absolutely false.

LAN parties were about interactions. People screaming, looking at each other, throwing stuff at each other. Peripheral vision also played a big role.

Yeah, after hours of setup and teenagers trying to figure out how TCP/IP works. And cheating looking at other people's screens. My point still stands.

 

[Boil]

Will there be an option that integrates the AirPod Max into the Vision Pro...?

 

[krspkbl]

They showed use cases for that: watching a movie on the plane. Using it as an external big ass monitor in a co-working space. But yeah, you won't be grocery shopping in this.

If they can improve the battery in future models then it's definitely something you could wear outside. They almost have to market it as a home device right now because of the 2 hour battery life.

Somewhere down the line you could be wearing a headset outside and with improved software you could do things like compare prices when grocery shopping just by looking at items, walk down a street and see reviews of shops you walk by, if you're lost or going somewhere for the first time then it could point you in the right direction, and probably not too exciting but billboards or adverts could appear in 3d as you look at them.

There are so many possibilities for this. Apple just need to sell this to the mass market, get affordable models out, and keep refining the hardware and software. Remember the iPhone didn't even launch with an App Store...

 

[newyorksole]

I had to think of an old Futurama episode.

now this is funny lol

what a time

 

[zach-coleman]

No games?

Probably would have been too hard to keep secret. The partnership with unity implies they’re at least putting in the bare minimum for it.

 

[votdfak]

Tim you finally f*cked up. LOL

 

[Ethosik]

I selfishly want this to fail miserably. I don't want to live in a dystopic hell hole where people don't have contact with each other and all live in isolated virtual bubbles controlled by multi-trillion dollar companies. Technology should improve our lives, not control it. I feel is this is taking it too far.

I also don't understand why people want to so badly live in these virtual worlds. You can only use 2 senses in VR/AR - Seeing and hearing. You can't feel a Memoji, you can't taste any virtual foods and you can't smell the virtual worlds.

Yep. People need to understand the ending of Ready Player One to understand how serious this can get. I fully see a world where nobody interacts in person anymore and it's very scary. Plus with Meta trying to shove Metaverse. Virtual Walmart shopping? Really?! Even doing that is more social than isolation.

 

[n19htmare]

Lisa? Newton?

But Apple doesn't make products that flop....according to plenty on here.

 

[sunapple]

At first I thought this would be amazing on a plane, but then realized the open air sound would be horrible on a plane for both you and the people next to you.

That's why they wear AirPods Pro in the images.

 

[Rigby]

At first I thought this would be amazing on a plane, but then realized the open air sound would be horrible on a plane for both you and the people next to you.

In one of the videos they showed a person on a plane using Airpods while wearing the headset.

 

[flofixer]

On one hand they showcased how they care about your vision health by having you spend more time in the sunlight and on the other hand they launch this where you spend your entire waking hours behind miniature screens covering your eyes.

Introducing: A whole generation of addicts looking to escape into illusions.

Perhaps you weren't aware that they were addressing reduction in myopia by being outside applies to children when their eyes are developing. It's a different situation with adults.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

Looks like a nice first crack, actually. Wake me up when there’s a release with 3nm (or less) processor, 8K+ resolution, a bit less bulky, and under $2000. Going to be a hell of a product someday. Remember the MacBook Air gen1 with SSD was just as outrageously priced… it eventually became the GLOAT (greatest laptop of all time) 😂

I wonder how far in advance of the real launch the knock-offs will appear?

5,000+ Apple patents and multiple expensive M-Series Apple SoC make competent knock-offs very unlikely.

 

[McScooby]

This seriously looks like a "solution" looking—desperately—for a problem.

The problem is how to get an IMAX cinema in your living room, now sorted where not only do you have an IMAX, but an IMAX on a beach (your beach if it overlays with pano shots) if you so wish!

 

[fathergll]

I feel the same.

I'm highly skeptical that people want to wear something bulky like Vision Pro all day, but I also think Apple did a very nice job with the product. The experience of using it, as conveyed in the keynote, seems elegant. I like the way people nearby fade in and out of view. Showing the eyes and signaling full immersion across the front of the unit is a very nice touch. It looks bulky to me, but it's obvious they've put a lot of thought into making Vision Pro comfortable.

Starting at $3499...is kind of crazy. If the starting price is $3499, I shudder to think what it costs fully loaded. Based on the keynote, it also sounds like Vision Pro, like iOS devices, does not support multiple users (although that remains to be seen). If the device can't be shared, it's hard to imagine it selling very well. The whole family needs to be able to enjoy that new interactive Disney content. Only the 0.1% will be able to buy a Vision Pro for each member of the family.

As far as a dystopian future goes, I think the trend is clear. We're merging with our technology. At the same time we're rendering our planet uninhabitable. What happens when those two trajectories intersect? What will it mean to be human? I used to think we'd leave the planet and travel through space one day. I now don't believe that will ever happen in any meaningful way. It's far more likely that we'll recreate reality digitally and ultimately become disembodied, code.

For me the creepiest thing about the Vision Pro presentation was the recording of 3D memories. I go to a lot of concerts and I just can't understand the people who essentially watch the concert through their phone screen while recording it. Those people don't experience the event. They capture it. The same thing is true for these 3D recordings the Vision Pro makes. When people are so busy worrying about capturing memories, they aren't actually experiencing or making them.

I feel like we're being conditioned more and more to experience reality through the screen. Will humans one day be forced to live in very isolated or confined conditions because of climate change and will technologies like the ones we saw today be our only escape?

Overall the Vision Pro was largely what I expected to see, although I figured it would be more tied to existing products. The fact that it's a new platform, not an accessory, is interesting. It looks a bit ridiculous, more bulky and bulbous than I expected. It's a revolutionary product in many respects, but I think Apple has a tough road ahead at that price point. The Vision Pro experience looks elegant, but will it live up to the promise when experienced firsthand? TBD.

1. When you say it's bulky then my question is compared to what? To other VR headsets? Not even close. .

2. Price is very high but I suspect since this is called the Pro version there will be a cheaper one in the future once they iron out kinks and things get cheaper. I think the idea here from Apple is this is the fully loaded device as they know if they cheaped out with a bad user experience this thing was DOA. They need to wow people.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

Check out the video.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1665808907745329154

 

[mrjj71]

It is an entire computer, so it could replace your laptop. You can use it wired for watching movies for example. Not really a prototype but it is for sure the start of a new thing that will keep evolving.

I don't want a laptop sitting on my face though!

 

[Septercius]

You laugh now, but like most Apple products that people mock the design of...within a year from launch...everyone will be wearing one!

At $3500, in the middle of a period of soaring inflation, political uncertainty and war?

That's the strangest definition of "everyone" I've ever seen.

 

[Nuno Lopes]

The presentation around this product was technically impressive and the use cases were at least interesting ... some excitingly interesting ... until the price was revealed. With that it was also revealed that it is a toy for millionaires. I mean not someone with a million or three in assets and a little money on the bank ... but people with hundreds of thousands in the bank and ten million or more in assets. In other words, financially the top 8% of humanity.

The second challenge is that I don't see this product doing anything better than let alone replace any of the devices people use every day. I could envision maybe buying if it could at least replace for half a day my desktop monitor ... used as a super flexible external display of my MacBook Pro or iMac, physically tethered to it. But it seams it does it through AirPlay ... its not just good enough for it.

This alone exposes how this launch is nowhere near exciting for me as it was the iPhone launch in 2007. Beyond the way more sensible pricing of the iPhone also packed with future technologies and concepts ... back than it wasn't just potentially better than the smartphones let alone feature phones of the time ... it actually deamed those products obsolete! Heck Vision Pro can't even replace a desktop monitor ... Vision Pro much?

Anyway, the future looks enticing. But it is not as close it I expected it to be in this context.

Cheers.

PS: I may buy one, never unpack it, and sell it on an auction 15 years from 10 times more

 

[Iconoclysm]

No games?

My guess is that having Hideo Kojima present during the keynote should have been enough for you to extrapolate the rest.

 

[EPiD3MiK]

Few things to note on why this will be a success:

Intuitive - If you compare to the current products on the market, they make you feel alien. You have to not only wear googles, but have the hand controllers. Wonky UI/UX - It's simply not a human experience. Apple waited this long to get the FEELING right. You put on these googles to take you into a new world, a new enhanced world where you do everything you naturally would do to control it. Speak, hand gestures, eye movements.

Ecosystem - This is always the difference been using an apple device period. It fits into the life that is designed for you. Not how do you fit this into your life. People still don't get this being the biggest differentiator and Apple's reason for success?

Immersive Content - They glossed over the 3D camera and how you can truly capture a moment. Think of this tool applied to a creative industry... but really PORN. Let's be real, porn dictates the path of technology. Blu Ray vs HD DVDs, HTML 5, Death if FLASH, all things that have been decided by the porn industry. Wait till they get their hands on this haha

You gotta know the future will most likely going to be like READY PLAYER ONE in a lot of ways, hopefully not the negative, but think of the positive bits like education. Once these become cheap to donate to schools across America like they did with the Macintosh, education will finally be reimagined.

As always the first generation are for early adopters, people who see the future and cant wait to play with this. They simply seed the way for mass adoption. Just like the iPhone and iPad Vision pro will change the world.

$3500 for insane state of the art sensors, lcd screen, camera, spatial audio, slick design, I mean people are crazy to think tech is cheap and easy to invent, design, iterate, then bring to market.

 

[Aeolius]

How long until someone hacks the front display so I can have octopus eyes?

 

[Pinkyyy 💜🍎]

What is the point when it seems to take up your whole vision for tasks you can already do?

I think maybe for watching movies in a cinema-like atmosphere ? Still would be a lot cheaper to just go to a real cinema though lol.