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I stick by what I've said all along. This thing is an absolute joke. Ugly, overpriced, need a fanny pack trash. Starting at $3,499...get out of here Apple. Again, this is going to flop so hard. If I ever see someone in public wearing this, I'm going to laugh so hard at them! Unbelievable that this is an Apple product. This is the best they could do. Sad.
They know it's not going to sell like crazy, which is why they priced it as they did. It can't flop because they aren't over-hyping it. It won't sell well, and they know it...which is why it's such an interesting decision on Apple's part.
 
it'll be curious to see if this device, in time, will go the way of the 3D curved TV or whether it'll reach massive market adoption like many of the other Apple products did in the last 20 years. I don't feel strongly either way; I don't wish it to fail, nor do I hope it is a blistering success.

The early adopter price is a steep one, that alone will keep it from becoming a millions-of-units-sold gadget. But it will pave the way to the next versions integrating lessons learned from v1.

From a human perspective, I agree with others that have said that this is another piece of technology that further isolates us from our surroundings, beyond what the phone does already.
 
It's a really expensive device and even Apple acknowledges that with their US only launch.
But watching the keynote there were moments I felt a sense of wonder and possibility I don't remember since the iPhone and not many times before.
There were limitations and downsizes but there was also some magic.
I really look forward to watching what will come of this.
And from across the ocean I will probably only see it in person if the possibilities come true perhaps only in gen 2.
 
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I mean on the positives. It's cool you can see through so you don't need to take it off. Then there is, um, em, other stuff.
 
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It runs iPhone and iPad apps tho, just like the iPad Pro didn't become the laptop replacement it was prophetized to be (not for all at least) due to the limited use cases where it can be useful.

This thing isn't without merit, but so far it sounds a lot like strapping an iPad to your eyeballs to consume apps and media.
Well they did transfer a MacBook screen to virtual space and used regular keyboard and mouse. So I am wondering if it could run the apps on its own also. It has M2 chip and same interface methods whereas the iPad is limited by the touch screen. They went right to replicating a desktop experience with this one, iPad has always been limited.
 
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Few things to note on why this will be a success:

Intuitive - If you compare to the current products on the market, they make you feel alien. You have to not only wear googles, but have the hand controllers. Wonky UI/UX - It's simply not a human experience. Apple waited this long to get the FEELING right. You put on these googles to take you into a new world, a new enhanced world where you do everything you naturally would do to control it. Speak, hand gestures, eye movements.

Ecosystem - This is always the difference been using an apple device period. It fits into the life that is designed for you. Not how do you fit this into your life. People still don't get this being the biggest differentiator and Apple's reason for success?

Immersive Content - They glossed over the 3D camera and how you can truly capture a moment. Think of this tool applied to a creative industry... but really PORN. Let's be real, porn dictates the path of technology. Blu Ray vs HD DVDs, HTML 5, Death if FLASH, all things that have been decided by the porn industry. Wait till they get their hands on this haha

You gotta know the future will most likely going to be like READY PLAYER ONE in a lot of ways, hopefully not the negative, but think of the positive bits like education. Once these become cheap to donate to schools across America like they did with the Macintosh, education will finally be reimagined.

As always the first generation are for early adopters, people who see the future and cant wait to play with this. They simply seed the way for mass adoption. Just like the iPhone and iPad Vision pro will change the world.

$3500 for insane state of the art sensors, lcd screen, camera, spatial audio, slick design, I mean people are crazy to think tech is cheap and easy to invent, design, iterate, then bring to market.
I don't disagree with you. It has a target audience but that is a VERY small audience, especially at that price.

This, to me, is a more early access device that Apple is allowing some to have access to. It's not going to be as they en"vision" it, not yet at least.
 
As it currently stands, VisionPro will likely replace the PC/laptop, but I don’t see it as a smartphone killer yet.
 
Well, there we go.

Thoughts from a seasoned Apple watcher:

  1. It still makes people look like a Doofus, just like all VR headsets thus far. And the fact you need a battery pack is like those old jokes from the 1970s about amazing digital watches that had built in TVs, but how you had to drag around a few car batteries to use them.
  2. They focussed a lot on work tasks in their demo. But workplaces are incredibly conservative with tech, especially the larger ones. Most haven't even embraced tablet computing, despite that being over a decade old, for example. Where I work it's basically Dell laptops and Microsoft apps. That's it. The IT guy will literally laugh if you ask for an iPad, for example. It's going to be a LONG time before you'll walk into an average office and see people wearing headsets.
  3. Where are people going to use the headset? Nobody's going to use it outdoors, or in a cafe, for example (for fear of getting mugged, if nothing else – it's a $3.5K device that can be ripped off your head incredibly easily – my wife rarely wears expensive jewellery of that price outdoors for the same reason). In other words, it's only really for intimate spaces like the home. And in our intimate spaces we tend to be with others. Right now my wife is sitting a few feet away from me, for example. Why would I want to cut her out and enter a different reality that she can't be part of? Even an augmented reality? This might be the Achille's Heel of AR. It's a personal tech, but it wants to be community tech involving your surroundings and the people in it. I'm not sure Apple's found a way to square that circle.
  4. I can never, ever use this because of my eye conditions that mean I have to wear both contact lenses and glasses for full vision. Apple's already published a list of people who shouldn't use it, and there's some pretty mundane conditions on there. I think it's going to physically impossible for many people over 50 to use this.
I know this always happens. People crap all over Apple products when they're first launched. But all the concerns people had before the launch are still there.

Agreed. It has “wow” factor, we know that. The problem is that “wow” factor lasts about two minutes before you really start to think about use cases. It does look more impressive than past headsets. It still doesn’t make me want a headset, let alone to replace any existing Apple products with this thing.
 
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It's a really expensive device and even Apple acknowledges that with their US only launch.
But watching the keynote there were moments I felt a sense of wonder and possibility I don't remember since the iPhone and not many times before.
There were limitations and downsizes but there was also some magic.
I really look forward to watching what will come of this.
And from across the ocean I will probably only see it in person if the possibilities come true perhaps only in gen 2.
I had a smile on my face most of the time. Maybe because some things seemed ridiculous, but not in a bad way per se. More of wonder.
 
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It's a computer don't think of it as an accessory. That is the price computers used to cost before we went with cheap Dell and hp crap. IBM PC's and PS/2 were 3-4k themselves...and compared to an iPhone...price is fine....infact I excepted 8-10k so I was pretty much excited and happy with the 3500.

My point was who it was aimed at? It’s not aimed at general consumers at that price despite what computers used to cost years ago, or what you think is a really good price. Computers became more popular once they were more affordable which is why the likes of Amstrad dominated the market many years ago. How many people right now in a cost of living crisis would be excited to drop £4K on a virtual reality headset, and I ask that with a fairly straight face? Most if my friends and family don’t have the latest iPhone, not through cost, just because they have a decent iPhone already. So is this aimed at tech enthusiasts with large disposable incomes, businesses or the mass market consumer?
 
Its great but lets be honest, this thing is a concept device that most will never buy.

I expect maybe in 3-4 years we might see more adoption if prices lower and us mortals but a Vision SE model but until then, this is not anywhere near the same as an Apple Watch when that launched.
This thing is exactly like 1st gen Apple Watch though. Features heavy but no killer feature; ridiculously high price tag; basically a refined/ polished version of what competitors had been doing.
 
but people with hundreds of thousands in the bank and a ten million or more in assets. In other words, financially the top 8% of humanity.
Not sure which of these you’re equating to 8% of humanity, but 10 million in assets is nowhere NEAR 8% of humanity, probably not even .08% of humanity… in the USA, about .05% (half of 1% have 10M+ in assets) of people, or a bit over 1% of HOUSEHOLDS have 10m+… I would bet other than some outliers like Switzerland, Lichtenstein, MAYBE Singapore, they might be higher in % terms than the USA.. still, for the majority of average households this a large amount of money that they really are not going to spend on.
 
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Myself and a couple other family members are already saying this is a day one purchase primarily because of our ambitions to develop on this platform and because of the productivity features regarding the infinite canvas of data. Real 3D interfaces (not 2d windows in a 3d plane like apple showed) are something we've been interested in for a long time. We've experimented with Magic Leap before but that wasn't quite up to par. I think this is the device that will bring the hardware up to people's software ambitions.

And sure, the media stuff also looks pretty cool. Seems like watching movies in this will be way more compelling than any display.
 
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If this could replace my smartphone, laptop/desktop, and TV then I'm sold. The iPhone killed off (for most people) things like mp3 players/radios, photo/video cameras, physical books/movie discs, etc. I'd love not having to buy a new TV, laptop, smartphone and instead just getting a new headset.

It's going to be a good few years before I do get a headset though. Main thing for me is battery life. They need to get it up to 6+ hours for me to consider it.

If this is coming with an M2 then maybe the M3 or M4 models can make it run more efficient and improve battery.
 
My point was who it was aimed at? It’s not aimed at general consumers at that price despite what computers used to cost years ago, or what you think is a really good price. Computers became more popular once they were more affordable which is why the likes of Amstrad dominated the market many years ago. How many people right now in a cost of living crisis would be excited to drop £4K on a virtual reality headset, and I ask that with a fairly straight face? Most if my friends and family don’t have the latest iPhone, not through cost, just because they have a decent iPhone already. So is this aimed at tech enthusiasts with large disposable incomes, businesses or the mass market consumer?
Just like all other Pro products, it offers features at a price that is for a smaller audience. This is however the first time a new Apple product launched this way. Telling sign of the state of tech I think.
 
Coming from someone who has been using vr like quest 2 for years, you lemmings don’t seem to understand apple. They are never about introducing a new category, but perfecting it for mass adoption.

1) All hundreds of thousands of apps work on day 1, no one have that.

2) The screen quality and resolution is extraordinary, it will allow a real replacement for a high end 100”+ 4K tv or projector, which costs 5k+ already. Compared to the existing top end vr screens, it’s not even in the same league. People don’t understand how important this is for mass adoption. Try to watch a movie on a quest 2 or valve index screen, it’s terrible vs real tv.

3) it has dev kit millions of devs already familiar with and easy to build apps for, look at quest 2 dev kit, it’s a cluster mess…at the end having good high quality apps is what will drive mass adoption.

4) I have my doubts about it replacing desktop computers, but if it can, it will just be icing on the cake.

5) this is just gen 1, anyone remembered how bad gen1 iPhone was…..the product will advance at a lightning pace with prices dropping each iteration, until it reaches maturity like iPhone has.

This will change the world…just give it few years to mature.
I already have over 5k+ worth of homecinema gear in my apartment. Sure, years ago i tried those "big screen" cinema apps on a oculus rift etc, those were nice and would be way nicer with apple's gear and implementation, but paying that much for a single user experience...no way !”
 
If this could replace my smartphone, laptop/desktop, and TV then I'm sold. The iPhone killed off (for most people) things like mp3 players/radios, photo/video cameras, physical books/movie discs, etc. I'd love not having to buy a new TV, laptop, smartphone and instead just getting a new headset.

It's going to be a good few years before I do get a headset though. Main thing for me is battery life. They need to get it up to 6+ hours for me to consider it.

If this is coming with an M2 then maybe the M3 or M4 models can make it run more efficient and improve battery.
6+ of wireless use though? Wired is also an option. And maybe you can have spare batteries, the pouches attach magnetically anyway.
 
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