Apple Reveals 'Vision Pro' Headset and visionOS

[Motionblurrr]

It's hilarious because even Android forums are full of people who are hating on Apple. Do they not get that they are practically peeing into the wind at this point?

The internet has really turned into this in the past 13 years I'd say.

 

[Ethosik]

What is the different between this and looking at a screen all day at work, or even at home? I don't really see how this product is dystopian, if someone close themselves off from the world with this product it is the users "fault" not the product, and i don't see people doing that anyways, your comment would only be a consern if people used it for 24/7 and i don't see that happening, people will probably wear this way less than what they are currently doing with screen-devices

Because it is inherently how the device works. I can't say "Hey Bob, come take a look at my code" with this headset. He can't come over to my desk and see it. But a monitor he can! Monitor inherently is open, which is why some people working on sensitive details get the add on or specific monitors to block stray eyes from viewing information.

 

[downpour]

Hopefully this stupid product will help people realise how ridiculous our obsession with screens and the internet has become. I grew up loving technology… but I think it’s pretty clear now the world was a lot better before all this came along. It’s bad enough being addicted to social media when it is in your pocket… but making it so you literally can’t look away, is a nightmarish vision of the future.

 

[thecombatwombat]

Well, there we go.

Thoughts from a seasoned Apple watcher:

1. It still makes people look like a Doofus, just like all VR headsets thus far. And the fact you need a battery pack is like those old jokes from the 1970s about amazing digital watches that had built in TVs, but how you had to drag around a few car batteries to use them.
2. They focussed a lot on work tasks in their demo. But workplaces are incredibly conservative with tech, especially the larger ones. Most haven't even embraced tablet computing, despite that being over a decade old, for example. Where I work it's basically Dell laptops and Microsoft apps. That's it. The IT guy will literally laugh if you ask for an iPad, for example. It's going to be a LONG time before you'll walk into an average office and see people wearing headsets.
3. Where are people going to use the headset? Nobody's going to use it outdoors, or in a cafe, for example (for fear of getting mugged, if nothing else – it's a $3.5K device that can be ripped off your head incredibly easily – my wife rarely wears expensive jewellery of that price outdoors for the same reason). In other words, it's only really for intimate spaces like the home. And in our intimate spaces we tend to be with others. Right now my wife is sitting a few feet away from me, for example. Why would I want to cut her out and enter a different reality that she can't be part of? Even an augmented reality? This might be the Achille's Heel of AR. It's a personal tech, but it wants to be community tech involving your surroundings and the people in it. I'm not sure Apple's found a way to square that circle.
4. I can never, ever use this because of my eye conditions that mean I have to wear both contact lenses and glasses for full vision. Apple's already published a list of people who shouldn't use it, and there's some pretty mundane conditions on there. I think it's going to physically impossible for many people over 50 to use this.

I know this always happens. People crap all over Apple products when they're first launched. But all the concerns people had before the launch are still there.

No no. Didn't you see the demo?

She can look right at your not at all creepy eyes on that OLED display. Everyone will wear that thing 24/7 with their families.

This tech has cool applications. Apple or not a lot of it will inform how we use computers for a long time. But this really feels to me like the moment Tim Cook proved to everybody that really, he is not Steve Jobs. He doesn't get how people will actually (not) incorporate this into their lives, but as he said, he thinks AR is super neat.

 

[DRapp]

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Now that’s funny!!

 

[n19htmare]

As it currently stands, VisionPro will likely replace the PC/laptop, but I don’t see it as a smartphone killer yet.

No it won't.

People need to cut out this whole "it will replace x product"...no it won't. It's a supplemental product, it's not going to "replace" anything.

Edit: I take that back, I guess it can replace your friends and family to a virtual level considering everyone in the presentation was physically........................alone.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

Probably true, IF the battery only lasts TWO hours (and how long will it take for that to degrade), one isn’t going to be wearing it all the time just around the house.. and IF it only lasts two hours, then just how much of a 2 hour movie am I going to watch on a transcontinental flight? I might get 1:45’ish? I guess we’re going to be carrying batteries, or always counting on plugging it in somewhere.

On modern sucky air flights (air travel having deteriorated every year for 50 years) even a 16" MBP is a challenge to use in coach class. This headset plus AirPods would appear to far surpass the MBP performance while being head-worn instead of overfilling cramped space between passenger and seatback in front. Carrying a spare iPhone-size battery or two would be no big deal.

 

[cfountain72]

Yeah, that was extremely cringy. I can't imagine wearing this during "cherished moments" in order to capture those moments in 3D.

I was thinking (hoping) that, with its built-in LiDAR, you could take 3D videos/pictures with your iPhone, and this device would be able to ‘see’ the 3D during playback….?

 

[Naraxus]

Cook has never been able to deliver that line even with an audience. He is merely reading from a script with no passion.

That's because unlike Steve, all Tim cares about is the stock price. Steve made you believe in what he was demonstrating. He made you believe that he truely cared about the product.

Tim is the polar opposite. That's why he rarely does anything other than talk about coustomer sat ratings, money, stock value etc. He has his minions do the work he should be doing.

 

[laurim]

I feel like only Apple can get away with this.

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Until my house has a huge over-the-air power grid installed in every ceiling, I would rather the battery weight be anywhere but my head/neck

 

[JediStarWars]

The argument about “this disconnects us from people and community, I hate it!” makes me laugh because everyone is ALREADY disconnected the way people walk around with Air Pods and their faces transfixed to their iPhones…

 

[ryan102]

The elephant in the room here is the long term consequences of wearing such a device on your head on a daily basis even if it's for an hour or so. I would imagine it wouldn't be a positive response and would lead to permanent eye damage depending on how often the headset is worn.

But even coming back from the medical side of things, it doesn't look great. Sitting at home with that thing on your face for hours at a time? I would imagine you'd have 2 nice round circles around your eyes for sometime once taken off. Not to mention if you're immersed in a movie and a child hurts itself in another room and you're completely unaware for example.

I agree with others that it's designed for a certain group of people and the general consumer isn't it. Majority of the world isn't wealthy enough where their citizens can drop $3500+ on such a product let alone want it. Apple does seem to be dropping the ball lately, they've had all the bad press over their tracking devices and now this will be a continuation I feel.

There are a lot of things they get right but I think they just seem to rush into new products for the sake of new releases.

 

[crsh1976]

All the "use cases" comments are wrong. This isn't about a "use case" this is a new, general use computing platform. This is a laptop replacement with so much more capability. This is not about discreet use cases.

Apple is going to create a whole new market and category. Expensive? Yes. But capable and transformative. No, this is not the same as the Quest. Because of the whole platform they've built. Because of the quality of build and components.

This is not about "use cases."

The funny thing, it comes down to what you and others will use this thing for, so these situations are very much use cases.

You don't strap a device to your face and do nothing, right?

 

[zakarhino]

Lol people here don't get it. This is going to be my next monitor for sure. It will replace a monitor, a TV, an iPad, or any other screen anywhere in the house (I won't wear this outside) and you can make it as big as you want. Infinite workspace. Gaming anywhere on a giant screen (yeah there no games yet but streaming should be possible right). On top of that you get cool VR capabilities.

I haven't been this excited for any Apple product since 2007.

The big question in my mind is whether or you can seamlessly transition from plugged in "AC" mode to battery mode without interruption. Similar to unplugging a MacBook charger. If so, I will basically spend most of my working day with this thing on because I can sit at my desk in my virtual environment and go speak to someone else in person without taking the headset off and losing context.

 

[tivoboy]

I mean on the positives. It's cool you can see through so you don't need to take it off. Then there is, um, em, other stuff.

I don’t think one actually “sees through” it.

The EXTERNAL cameras capture the world around you and then display it INTERNALLY to you on the screens - apparently with very low lag which is what makes most ppl nautious using devices like this (latency). The EYES that one sees from OUTSIDE, are your eyes represented EXTERNALLY on the OUTSIDE of the face screen, on an external display to the world and others around you.

 

[SpectatorHere]

it'll be curious to see if this device, in time, will go the way of the 3D curved TV or whether it'll reach massive market adoption like many of the other Apple products did in the last 20 years. I don't feel strongly either way; I don't wish it to fail, nor do I hope it is a blistering success.

The early adopter price is a steep one, that alone will keep it from becoming a millions-of-units-sold gadget. But it will pave the way to the next versions integrating lessons learned from v1.

From a human perspective, I agree with others that have said that this is another piece of technology that further isolates us from our surroundings, beyond what the phone does already.

This particular product will not sell well. Augmented Reality is going to take over everything, and Apple wants in on the ground floor. I suspect they decided to go public because of VisionOS more than anything. Figuring out the interface, getting developers on board are probably nearly as difficult to figure out as the hardware, which clearly isn't ready for mass market adoption in the near future.

Eventually we'll all be wearing glasses that run AR, and we'll integrate a mobile OS/platform into everything we do. My guess is Apple didn't want others to get too far of a headstart on them while they work on shrinking the hardware.

 

[TheNotch]

Snorkel sold separately.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Everyone will wear that thing 24/7 with their families.

To use the words of the great Harry Dean Stanton, “What a f——-g nightmare”

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Just like all other Pro products, it offers features at a price that is for a smaller audience. This is however the first time a new Apple product launched this way. Telling sign of the state of tech I think.

A much much smaller audience than those who buy Pro devices, I’ve never worked out what the Pro means to be honest, but that’s another story. It’s vastly more expensive that an iPhone or iPad and these are obtained over multiple year contracts at a third of this price. The tech market is certainly at a low point with interest at an all time low, probably why Apple gave this device such a low key launch maybe?

 

[fathergll]

You're acting like you're correcting me or exposing some contradiction, but I don't think you've really read all of my first initial message. I am not saying, and never did say this is all going away. I said as it is, this product specifically, people aren't going to adopt it in quantities anything like making it the next iPod, or iPhone, or Mac, or anything else they explicitly compared it to.

Like I say, look at how MS is marketing Hololens, this isn't some out of nowhere Apple thing. They are far more realistic about the near-term applications.

I think I added it to my comment while you were replying, but as I said above: this is not iPhone or iPad launch. If anything, it's a Newton. In twenty years people will agree it was ahead of its time, but people won't en masse use those ahead of their time things until the device itself is very, very different, as the iPhone was to the Newton.

Let me get this straight; I commented on your original post to asked you a line of questioning about when you think AR/VR will start to be widely adopted. You then edit your post AFTER with information I was looking for and then get snarky with me about trying to expose you because I didn't read the newly edited part 🤣



Are you being serious or is this a massive troll?

 

[spinedoc77]

It becomes a $3500 sleep mask.
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THIS is what the Vision Pro should have looked like!

 

[Richard700]

I dont know how to react to this but i do feel we are now one step into the future.

And remember, this is Apple's first step - and I applaud Apple for taking this first step - I definitely *see* their *vision* for the future of computing.

 

[bejib66000]

Most likely it's not compatible with the Airpods Max. ☹️

 

[PJL500]

You laugh now, but like most Apple products that people mock the design of...within a year from launch...everyone will be wearing one!

Yes and people will begin to enjoy the experience when the M4 chip is included. 2025. (M2? No. R1, ditto.) A battery dangling from a wire? (OK for 2023.)

 

[sunapple]

I just realised how wearing Apple Vision Pro and Dyson Zone air purifying headphone at the same time can make me be anywhere at any any time. I could live in a basement with no windows just fine. Don't have to move after all.