Still find it funny that they gave the iPhone and iPad "too close to your face" warnings, only to then release a Mixed Reality Headset.
I wonder if this can this work with multiple headsets. Can you share or anchor a 3D model in place and someone else view it with you in their headset from I independent angles?I wouldn’t be sat around people wearing it in any case. It’s unnecessary really. When someone approaches your desk and wants a conversation where you have to show them documents, CAD models on a screen, it’s a bit weird or difficult with a single headset I’d imagine. I don’t think this sort of product is aimed at that sort of user though and it’s for those who work in solitary conditions.
With the setup I outline above, you would just use the iPad to show the discussed content...?
You can do all the above on a tiny iPhone screen, on a 12.9" iPad Pro screen, on a 32" 4K screen for now, but 200", 300", 500" virtual screen without taking up one mm thick of your space?
Yes, hold nose to display.Can any of those existing allow you display Mac (and Windows maybe later), iPhone/iPad applications on extremely large screens?
It's also pretty concerning for folks who wear glasses. As someone who wears glasses, I'm not really sure how this thing can affect my vision in the long term. There's literally a display about one-inch far from my eyes, and I'm already myopic... 🙃It may not take up much of my space, yet it is less convenient than any of the mehods mentioned. It is hot, uncomfortable, creates skin issues, requires more frequent charging... It also isn't 200". It has the resolution of the Pro Display, which Apple thought should be 32" for perfect results.
Seriously?Every nursing home in the country could have one. It could bring pleasure to many who no longer have the luxury of getting out and about to see the outside which as result affects their metal health and overall well being. How good would it be for the nursing staff to slip on one of these headsets to a resident so they could experience a virtual garden or lake or seaside and to hear the sounds of such, water running through a brook, waves crashing on the beach, birds singing in the garden. Such a thing would lighten up their world, for those that wanted to try it of course.
Being portable and with the right app's written for it, it could be used as a training tool for the police, firefighters, medics, the armed forces.
The thing is though, people need to stop and think that the reason the majority of this was not made for existing VR devices is because those devices did not have screens that produced good quality images and thus the perception was people would not be interested in seeing poor quality images whereas now with the Vison Pro, they do which now opens up a huge amount of possibilities. I bet there are already developers out there wishing to get their hands on one so they can start developing their ideas.
That image is hilarious
Thanks for sharing. It's clearly not designed for you.For $3500 nah
Well survive without buying it too
Yes, I have my hand, and if I want to animate or draw, I need a STABLE base for it. You know, like a desk. Or a drafting table. No, drawing with your hand in the air is not the way it's done. Exactly - have some imagination, how do you expect me to wiggle my arm mid air to draw for lets say 12 or 14 hours? It's not physically possible - or would be torment.Strange replies from professionals. You have your hand and it doesn't really matter if it holds a mouse, a pen or just glides in space. The biggest advantage to 3D modelling like that is you can actually model and view in 3D space at the same time as opposed to 2D input of a mouse or pen while looking at a screen. You know like a real thing.
Surgery. Have you guys heard of remote surgery or doing something internally via video feed with help of a tiny camera inside a patient's body? With AR you could perform a surgery and view an x-rayed body. All patient's vital functions could be overlaid on their body for the surgeon to see.
C'mon, just have some imagination!
To be more exact - it's designed for people who want to be able to enjoy their time off in their OS wallpaper. So yeah, it's designed for noone.Thanks for sharing. It's clearly not designed for you.
Huh. THis is the most vague argument one can use. "Magic". Ok, I can try it, but doing what exactly? As I said, I see no application. I dont care if it's cool to navigate my OS apps menu with eyes - it can be razor sharp, crisp image with almsot no delay, but what exactly will I open these apps for? I want to actually do / accomplish something with this thing right? I truly see no application. "Magical experience" - but doing what exactly? Anything I could use it for (movies, work) will be inferior to alternatives.In order to truly appreciate ANY VR/AR headset, you have to try it yourself. It is not something that can be demonstrated in a keynote through videos or pictures or explained through words. Apple have repeated this idea several times during the keynote. You have to experience it. Hold on with your judgment before you try it yourself. There are two options here: either Apple over-exaggerated with its product, or they are correct when stating (several times) how magical this product, and how much better is than anything we have experienced in terms of AR/VR to date (as the iPhone). If Apple are that confident to price this product at 3499$, maybe, just maybe, it is worth every dollar. Apple management are not stupid, nor the thousands of engineers working on this thing for several years.
Clearly...To be more exact - it's designed for people who want to be able to enjoy their time off in their OS wallpaper. So yeah, it's designed for noone.
By the time he’s 16 it’ll be within the range of affordability. Not a huge comfort though, lol.
Wait, you're going to ding Apple for push a "massive" product that you don't think is feasible but you are buying in on neuralink and contacts? I've seen those... on SciFi shows but I'm not going to base my near term buying decisions on that.AR will worth through neuralink or contacts, or even Google Lens, some day, and it will be kind of useful. Not through massive scuba goggles.
I've seen that behavior in abundance on this thread and others this week. Sad.Your just being negative for negative sake. All you do is follow every thread about the Vison Pro and rubbish everything positive about it.
I have an iPhone and used Apple devices for years. I can afford this easily IF I wanted (or needed) one when released. I'm not sure what your point is here?Right. So you're just malding because you can't afford them now? You sound just like the android complainers who yell that iphones are so expensive. Can't afford, don't buy, it's that simple.
yeah,Another disappointment from Apple. Not ready for prime time, years away it. What has happened to Apple? Where is the innovation and problem solving? How about giving priority to improving existing Apple apps so they work as expected? The quality of Apple devices and apps are disappointing, need to change that.
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It’s the compliment to the argument you also see a lot of here “$3500! Only rich people can afford that. What was Apple thinking!?” While ignoring that that is exactly the price of a 16” MBP with M2 Ultra, something that many people on this forum would buy.I have an iPhone and used Apple devices for years. I can afford this easily IF I wanted (or needed) one when released. I'm not sure what your point is here?
The "you're too poor" argument is so rampant on this discussion board, it's insane. Being critical of product's viability and it's implied value is not indicative of one's financial position.
Keep on flexin'............Bro.
Once production costs come down there will be a more “mainstream” version of this (in whatever color combos you want) called simply Vision.
Not in the market for one, but I really think this aspect follows Apple’s introduction of “Retina” screens. Nobody knew we wanted it, it was a shock when announced, but once you actually use it it was clear that there’s no going back.
I’m not sure we should be calling whatever content is going to be made for these “movies” in the way we traditionally think of them. While it clearly excels as displaying 3D movies (which the tech for home theaters was never going to take off), there’s going to be a whole new type of “experience” based on the technology at play here.
I suspect that there’s going to be some really interesting blending of gaming/movies that will let you actually be in whatever scene you’re watching. That requires a whole different approach to scripting, filming (from literally every angle), audio design (you can move about the scene), etc. I think there’s going to be some really incredible things coming from Disney, and then some really really interesting conceptual movies/experiences from indies a few years down the road.
Sure! And that’s why Apple showed so much footage of people using them together and interacting.
I mean, seriously. Read virtually ANY article on the device. The central takeaway is that it’s isolating.
Fallacious nonsense. Goggles are not considered fashionable or desirable. If you contend that there’s no negative pressure facing ANY device that has to mount on your FACE you’re living in a seriously distorted reality. People generally aren’t rushing to wear goggles. How they look in them (ridiculous unless they’re skiing) is a big part of that as is the fact that they mess up your hair. Believe it or not, MOST humans are incredibly vein and self centered.
You laugh, but have you forgotten the retina introduction of the iPhone, and then the iPad? It was pushing the bleeding edge of mobile GPU performance at the time to push that many pixels.No one knew we wanted higher resolution screens?? Lol.
You laugh, but have you forgotten the retina introduction of the iPhone, and then the iPad? It was pushing the bleeding edge of mobile GPU performance at the time to push that many pixels.
I know it feels forever ago but it genuinely was a big deal in the industry that it was even possible to do at the time.