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I hope this isn't true. iMessage is awesome and it should remain a flagship exclusive feature of iOS/OS X.

Yeah right now it lets you know if your blind date is an Apple fan. If the messages are green the you can conveniently be too busy for the date. Blue? You're in mate!!!
 
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How does this help Apple in any meaningful way?

If you suddenly have a large amount of new users signing up for an Apple ID account you can target market to them more than just a messaging app.

They then become potential mac owners, potential Apple Music users and potential switchers.

There is a lot of 'potential' to do Apple good in a very meaningful way.
 
Okay, but how does that help Apple? Messaging is a feature, not a product.

It'd be like owning ICQ in the 90's. Marketshare = power (even if there's no money involved.)

Edit: or combine it with the rumours of full end to end encryption. Hey Google, you can no longer skim people's messages and use the data to your advantage. Apple 1, Google 0.
 
That was a bogus valuation - it only has value if they can monetize the App AND how is Facebook doing that?

What many of said PLUS, Apple could use your data for targeted advertisements. They could also get numerous companies to pay them hard cash to get features built in, much like FB Messenger does. For example, looking for a trip and texting someone? Then the application would utilize Expedia's trip finder to locate things for you. Moving and need a moving van? You can probably see and understand the potential there.

Either way, it doesn't hurt. Apple gets a massive potential market. Even if they are not making money off of it, I do believe that it would benefit them in some fashion. Having that many people using your messaging platform really opens the door to numerous possibilities for monetization and future revenue.
 
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Now android users will know the horror when the green bubble appears from their windows friends.
Other than if it is a text sent to a foreign number where it will be very expensive, I've never gotten why it is so bad to see a green bubble. Almost every plan has unlimited texting so it doesn't seem like a big deal.
 
If you suddenly have a large amount of new users signing up for an Apple ID account you can target market to them more than just a messaging app.

They then become potential mac owners, potential Apple Music users and potential switchers.

There is a lot of 'potential' to do Apple good in a very meaningful way.

I really don't see people saying "well, now I have iMessage. Time to buy throw 1k down for a laptop"

It'd be like owning ICQ in the 90's. Marketshare = power (even if there's no money involved.)

Edit: or combine it with the rumours of full end to end encryption. Hey Google, you can no longer skim people's messages and use the data to your advantage. Apple 1, Google 0.

So you think they'll throw money at something that won't make them any just to have "power" in the messaging space and/or spite Google?
 
Android already has Hangouts as the default messaging app, which can send online messages to other Hangouts users or SMS to iPhone users. An Android user who switched to only using iMessage wouldn't be able to send online messages to other Android users any more, so it doesn't really solve any problems.
The majority of Android phones do not have Hangouts as the default messaging app. If you buy most any of the top-selling Android phones you don't get stock Android apps as default. And Google already has another messaging app that they hope will replace Hangouts and the other two hundred messaging apps they have released beforehand (slight exaggeration on the two hundred part).

Also, an Android user who has iMessage as their default messaging app could of course send messages to both Android and iPhone users (as well as any other phone that can receive SMS/MMS messages).



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I personally would love to see it happen. It's absurd that in 2016 we still have things like platform-dependent messaging systems, I think it's high time. Between Airplay support on the HTC 10 and now this possibility, it's a good time to be on Android.

Now, having said that.... I know of at least three people who have stayed on iOS simply for the fact they were locked into using iMessage with family, etc. If they can get iMessage on Android they'll be gone pretty fast. Simply because they all dislike how difficult and cumbersome iOS has become.
 
Finally, that would be awesome! But honestly Allo is sounding better already. Step up ur game Apple! iMessage is boring.
 
I think it's a good move. However it really doesn't affect me. And for me, I have trouble wrapping my head around iMessage being a deciding factor whether to stay or leave the iPhone. Some people do seem to claim they only stay because of iMessage. But I guess since my friends and family all use WhatsApp which has always been cross platform - it's of little consequence. For others who I might text - I have unlimited texting. I don't find it cumbersome to use two apps. But that's just me. I'm also not a huge texter...
 
I really don't see people saying "well, now I have iMessage. Time to buy throw 1k down for a laptop"



So you think they'll throw money at something that won't make them any just to have "power" in the messaging space and/or spite Google?

I'm not in the business of predicting, I'm saying that big companies don't always go after immediate cash. Particularly in the tech sector, power regularly comes in other forms.
 
Hmm okay, well I guess it's different in the States (I'm guessing you guys are from there), than in Europe. Everyone is here using WhatsApp and I've never seen anyone use Apple's iMessage.

Hmm okay, well I guess it's different in Europe (I'm guessing you are from there), than in the UK. Everyone is here using iMessage and I've never seen anyone use Facebook's WhatsApp (apart from continental visitors).

See how that works? ;)
And yes, iMessage seems to be at least as popular as WhatsApp in the UK.
 
I didn't read every single response in this thread, but considering that Apple appears to be moving to a more "service" orientated company, the introduction of iMessage at WWDC complete makes sense.
 
Other than if it is a text sent to a foreign number where it will be very expensive, I've never gotten why it is so bad to see a green bubble. Almost every plan has unlimited texting so it doesn't seem like a big deal.

Yeah, the ironic thing is that iMessage made perfect sense back when everyone had unlimited data, and texts were expensive.

Now most plans are the exact opposite: unlimited texts and costly data.

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As for leaving the iOS platform if this works on Android, yes I think that's going to be a big result. Think of all the teens who are on iPhones mostly because of iMessage.

It's mind boggling that Apple would give up such an advantage. Assuming the rumor is true.
 
Uhhhhh... if they do that, then there's no reason to use iPhone at all. I know quite a few people who use iPhones primarily for iMessage. Apple will loose a lot of iPhone sales if this happens (wait, they're already loosing sales!) iMessage is one of the only exclusively Apple things that only Apple users get. If they do this then why not iOS for android?

iMessage on android = lack of apple ecosystem

Why on Earth would someone buy an iPhone primarily for iMessage??? What does iMessage do that one of the many other messengers can't?

While I think it's a few years too late, opening up iMessage is a good thing. Apple is probably losing more money because some people think it's a closed, limited garden.
 
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Seriously, WhatsApp is good but their updates are so slow so slow, as if they have just one programmer from high school working part time, with not internet connection.
Audio call took them so long.
Not expecting video call anytime in this decade.
Its taking them forever to release an option to auto delete old messages and collected garbage of medias. That too, delete them one by one. My brother's 16gb iPhone was filled 5gb of whatsapp media.
Exactly and not Apple Watch or iPad app either.
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How do iPhone users benefit? Just send a text message to Android users.

Stupid question really. Video messages, audio messages, picture messages (better quality than MMS and free), etc...
 
And do we think that will make up for fewer iPhone sales?
Who knows.

But if the options are:

A:
Bring iMessage to Android
Lose iPhone sales
The End

B:
Bring iMessage to Android
Lose iPhone sales
Generate revenue from an iMessage Payment service
The End

... B sounds like a much better choice (and something Apple just might do), IMO.
 
Who knows.

But if the options are:

A:
Bring iMessage to Android
Lose iPhone sales
The End

B:
Bring iMessage to Android
Lose iPhone sales
Generate revenue from an iMessage Payment service
The End

... B sounds like a much better choice (and something Apple just might do), IMO.

You forgot option C:

Leave iMessage an Apple device thing.

That's an option, and a more likely one.
 
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