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Are you denying that the Galaxy S brand is established since the original model ?

I don't get it. You say "the S3 offers people uniqueness, but not the iPhone 5!" when both were introduced...

That doesn't make sense. What uniqueness did the S3 offer than the iPhone 5 didn't ?

Explain it, seems contradictory "opinions". I'm talking facts :

- Galaxy S was an established brand
- iPhone was an established brand
- Galaxy S3 was a new model
- iPhone 5 was a new model

Why do you think these 2 things are any different when facts say they are the same ?

The galaxy s was NOT an established brand. Sure it sold but it was by no means a popular brand like iphone. Even in the US the galaxy brand was almost close to nil because of the carriers' naming of the device. In Australia there was no impression of the galaxy brand at all until the s3. The iphone brand, on the other hand, was very popular and established. So when the s3 came out and was popularized by carriers and tech reviewers, it became an anti-iphone device, one which was good enough for the people who disliked APple to resort to. DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT?
 
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First of all, it depends on why the iPhone 5 sold more than the Note 2. Was it because of the screen size, or the strength of the brand name?

Secondly, it's all about sales and profits. If Apple sells 15 million 4" iPhone 5s, does that mean they should ignore the potential 5 million extra they could pick up with a larger screen size? Sure, it's not as large as their main demographic, but there's still profits to be made there. Hell, they'd likely sell more large screen iPhones then they would retina Macbook Pros. And it wouldn't them nearly as much in R&D, so there'd be a better return on investments.

In the end, which would be preferable to you? Grabbing 15 million people, and letting the competition have the extra 5 million because they're "niche", or having 20 million people pay you for two products?

Do you also want Apple to grab the millions of people who buy cheap sub $100 Android phones that can't even run Angry birds? Because I'm sure those ANdroid manufacturers aint making any money on them.
 
I would buy a 4.5 inch iPhone in a heartbeat!

I would like to see more info on the lock screen like what is shown here: http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2012/05/22/iphone-5-nope-meet-the-iphone-plus/index.html

I was expecting the iPhone 5 to be bigger but all they did was go longer so I dumped my iPhone 4 and went with a Nokia Lumia 920.

If Apple can make a 4.5 inch screen with a home button similar to the Lumia 920 instead of the mechanical one that breaks, they will have a winner!

A 4.5 inch screen would be good in conjunction to a refresh (overhaul) in the iOS
 
If Apple chose to make a larger iPhone, they wouldn't need to hurt devs all the much. Simply doubling the iPhone 5's resolution gives you 2272x1280 - which would be a very high ppi phone (for a 4.8" - we'd be looking at about 535ish ppi - which could be labeled SuperRetina)
I'd expect that such a high resolution in such a small form factor would bring some kinds of problems with it (e.g. brightness, battery life, performance etc.). And the benefit over "traditional" (hm - funny term for such a young technology) Retina ppi numbers is small at best.

Thus i'd rather expect them to go for an already established resolution like the iPad 1/2/min's 1024x768, which may even be produced on the 9.7" Retina production lines...
 
I have been an iPhone user since the first launch and would love to upgrade my 4S, but if this new iOS does not bring something new to the table…. I will be out. My wife was going to upgrade to the 5 and decided she also just wanted something “different” and picked up the S3. I don’t care how big the screen is… I want a revamp in the interface or a least the introduction of “Themes” that would give the user some ability to customize the home interface. I don’t want to mess with Jailbreaking and all that crap… I simply want the ability to do more than move a few icons around. That was the major reason I did not upgrade to the iPhone 5… IT’S THE SAME FACE!!!!

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There is going to be a point where people just want to look at something different… I feel like that time is now for a large amount iPhone users that are on the fence. I hope they mix it up and give the user something else to look at with that big screen. At least the ability to try something different as in a "Theme" or something.
 
If Apple can make a 4.5 inch screen with a home button similar to the Lumia 920 instead of the mechanical one that breaks,
From all the iPhones i owned or know in my circle of friends and family - i can't remember one single home button breaking. Don't questioning it happens, but doubt it's a real problem...
 
Do you also want Apple to grab the millions of people who buy cheap sub $100 Android phones that can't even run Angry birds? Because I'm sure those ANdroid manufacturers aint making any money on them.

Entirely different scenario, which they do anyway considering they still offer the 3GS-4 for the low end crowd who wants cheap phones.

Apple mostly caters to the high end. A goodly amount of the high end tech crowd wants larger phones for various reasons. It might not be as large, but it's still a healthy amount. Would you rather Apple give up that demographic entirely so they can keep riding the "one size fits all" paradigm they've been going on with for the past 6 years? What Apple doesn't sell, someone else will. Which in turns equals a lost sale for Apple.
 
No. It doesn't follow Apple's tradition. I don't believe this for a second, at least not until the following product cycle.
 
I hope this is true. Ill sell my 5 straight away and get a '5 math'. I'm not a fan of the current 5 screen size, hopefully the math will have a wider screen.

Fingers crossed.
 
I'd expect that such a high resolution in such a small form factor would bring some kinds of problems with it (e.g. brightness, battery life, performance etc.). And the benefit over "traditional" (hm - funny term for such a young technology) Retina ppi numbers is small at best.

Thus i'd rather expect them to go for an already established resolution like the iPad 1/2/min's 1024x768, which may even be produced on the 9.7" Retina production lines...

So you're saying they abandon the 16:9 aspect ratio right after they introduced it and even though most every other high end smartphone currently sports a 16:9 screen?

I think 16:9 is what stays - and given IGZO's properties of allowing super dense pixels, very low power output and high efficiency, I'd argue the "small benefit" of the higher ppi over traditional retina would win out over more fragmentation.
 
Think different replaced by think for us.

Truly frightening, but not unexpected.

Nice misinterpretation. So because Apple thinks a product should be done a different way, this means they are thinking for you? Oh, right because you're forced to buy their product?

Please stop it with the cynical sarcasm.

Apple needs to evaluate its competitors and the reason for their successes or failures. If there is a significant market for larger smartphones it would be pretty stupid for Apple to ignore it and gift these consumers to its competitors without even a fight.

Imagine Apple using the approach you suggest with the iPad: "Want a smaller, cheaper tablet? Buy a Kindle Fire, please.". It turns out it was a pretty good idea to provide a different product instead.

this right here, that's false. I am not saying apple can't or apple won't enter this market of phones. I am saying where apple is standing now, they simply do not need to.

You people keep saying "Apple needs to do this, and apple needs to do that" No they don't they don't need to do anything that catters to a specific group of people. Which is why I hope - instead of claiming apple "needs" to - that apple keeps the current screen size.
 
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Nice misinterpretation.

If it were a misinterpretation, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Most people argued against the Mini because "Steve said anything smaller than 10 inches was stupid". Now they're arguing against larger iPhones for the exact same reason. "It's too big. You can't use it comfortably with one hand. It doesn't work".

Some people do take the "I don't know what I want until Apple shows me" line a little too literally.
 
I wish there were choices: 3.5" iPhone mini, 4" iPhone 5s and 5" iPhone Max.
People want more choices. U might not want a big screen, but some of us do.

iPhone Mini? Uhh... no. It's the previous generation, it's nothing new to Apple. It would be a joke if they made it.
 
So you're saying they abandon the 16:9 aspect ratio right after they introduced it and even though most every other high end smartphone currently sports a 16:9 screen?

I think 16:9 is what stays - and given IGZO's properties of allowing super dense pixels, very low power output and high efficiency, I'd argue the "small benefit" of the higher ppi over traditional retina would win out over more fragmentation.

But you forget that doubling the resolution in both X and Y means the GPU has to push four times as many pixels. There goes the power savings you got from switching to IGZO...

Apple should simply make an iPhone with a bigger screen but keep the iPhone 5 resolution. Everybody will be happy, no more fragmentation, still quite high DPI, etc. If it's supposed to be a "low-end" iPhone, it makes sense.
 
Why would Apple again change the screen size of the iPhone in June when there's still a bunch of apps that haven't been resized? It makes no sense. At least not now. The next model will not be bigger than 4" inches. :rolleyes:
 
Maybe they release this alongside ios 7 which has the ability to scale to display size like Android?
 
But you forget that doubling the resolution in both X and Y means the GPU has to push four times as many pixels. There goes the power savings you got from switching to IGZO...

Given that Apple has been and continues to be far ahead of anyone as far as GPU goes, I'd bet they could figure it out.

Heck, the iP5 doesn't even have quad core graphics yet....in 2013 they'll be ramping up IGZO, switching to TSMC's 20nm process....a company like Apple doesn't just decide to make a 4.8" iPhone.....if it actually happens this year, its more than likely been in the works for the last two years.
 
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