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If appealing to popularity doesnt prove jack crap, why should Apple cater to the need of a minority group of users? Why should they labour themselves manufacturing something that will not be as popular as their traditional product? You need to come up with a better persuasion.

First of all, it depends on why the iPhone 5 sold more than the Note 2. Was it because of the screen size, or the strength of the brand name?

Secondly, it's all about sales and profits. If Apple sells 15 million 4" iPhone 5s, does that mean they should ignore the potential 5 million extra they could pick up with a larger screen size? Sure, it's not as large as their main demographic, but there's still profits to be made there. Hell, they'd likely sell more large screen iPhones then they would retina Macbook Pros. And it wouldn't them nearly as much in R&D, so there'd be a better return on investments.

In the end, which would be preferable to you? Grabbing 15 million people, and letting the competition have the extra 5 million because they're "niche", or having 20 million people pay you for two products?
 
...and more often than not, I'm using my iPhone 4 two handed. I find it easier to type with my index finger than I do my thumb. Does that mean Apple doesn't care about me?



No, it means that you are holding it wrong.
 
Pretty sure if they did this, it would be for the iPhone 6, not 5s.

And were't there rumors of a mini-iPhone a few weeks ago?

This rumor isn't true.
 
Size matters. Samsung sells because they are not afraid to go big
Bigger is better for a phone.
Smaller is better for a tablet.
The iPad mini is outselling the big iPad.
Size is important. You can still hold a 4.8" iPhone with one hand.
They will sell 5 million the first day.
I can't wait!

True, and it is not like the iphone 5 sales were down or anything. I would bet there will be room for both phones in the market.
 
Sure the iphone5 was new when it was launched. But the iphone brand had already been too popular and hence there's a section of the population who dont want to be using the same thing as other people. They wanted to stand out. The s3 gave them that opportunity.

Uh ? The Galaxy S has been quite successful since its introduction. You can't say "the iPhone brand is established, the S3 is new!", that's the same as saying "The Galaxy S brand is established, the iPhone is new!".

You're not making sense there. I won't discuss Australia as it's literally on the other side of the world from me.
 
Perfectly pocketable. sure :rolleyes:
I have to admit that i kind of liked my colleagues' Note2 when i played around a few minutes with it. I'm not sure whether i would want that to be my day-to-day smartphone, but the screen real estate (compared to my iPhone 5) feels to come in handy e.g. during daily commuting.

What "people"? THe 5 million people who bought the NOte2? Or the dozens of millions of people who bought iphone 4S and iphone5?
I did not verify your numbers, but for me 5 million buyers is a strong statement! Especially as you compare apples with oranges (e.g. counting 4S and 5 numbers together or not relating the numbers to specified and comparable periods of time)...
 
Uh ? The Galaxy S has been quite successful since its introduction. You can't say "the iPhone brand is established, the S3 is new!", that's the same as saying "The Galaxy S brand is established, the iPhone is new!".

You're not making sense there. I won't discuss Australia as it's literally on the other side of the world from me.

Whatever flows your boat. You're not making any sense either. From what I've seen all you do is imposing your opinions on others and when they dont agree with you you always look down on them. I dont care about your opinions and wherever you're from.
 
I have to admit that i kind of liked my colleagues' Note2 when i played around a few minutes with it. I'm not sure whether i would want that to be my day-to-day smartphone, but the screen real estate (compared to my iPhone 5) feels to come in handy e.g. during daily commuting.


I did not verify your numbers, but for me 5 million buyers is a strong statement! Especially as you compare apples with oranges (e.g. counting 4S and 5 numbers together or not relating the numbers to specified and comparable periods of time)...

The ipad mini or the normal ipad screen real estate feels very handy to me too ! :eek:
 
They just changed screen size, and now another iPhone? with a larger screen.

I really don't want the fragmentation in apps to expand even more. I hate having these black bars on my iPhone as is. Adding another resolution would only further this hell of indifferent iPhone apps. Let's just stick to these 2 resolutions please.

Or write better apps to work on all platforms. (just a thought)
 
The "one-handed use" argument is the worst kind of rationalization, and I can't believe people buy into it.

If the thumb doesn't reach the top of the UI in one-handed use, you compensate by designing the UI so that common tasks are on the bottom.

You don't compromise on screen real estate and usability by keeping it small because of a ludicrous "thumb" argument.

The only reason the iPhone's width hasn't changed is because iOS was not designed for resolution independence. Probably an after effect of the equally short-sighted decision to not allow for third party applications.
 
Whatever flows your boat. You're not making any sense either. From what I've seen all you do is imposing your opinions on others and when they dont agree with you you always look down on them. I dont care about your opinions and wherever you're from.

So sayeth the guy who's entire argument is based around "olol large screens are dumb no one wants one cuz I think they're dumb and too big to fit in your pants".

POT? KETTLE? WUH?
 
Size is important. You can still hold a 4.8" iPhone with one hand.
The Galaxy Note 2 even offers the option of one-handed usage with a downscaled dial field on the left or right side of the screen. Not saying this is the be all and end all solution (or elegant or stylish, both of which are lying in the eye of the beholder anyway), but it shows that one-handed usage and bigger screen sizes don't necessarily outrule each other.
 
Whatever flows your boat. You're not making any sense either. From what I've seen all you do is imposing your opinions on others and when they dont agree with you you always look down on them. I dont care about your opinions and wherever you're from.

Are you denying that the Galaxy S brand is established since the original model ?

I don't get it. You say "the S3 offers people uniqueness, but not the iPhone 5!" when both were introduced...

That doesn't make sense. What uniqueness did the S3 offer than the iPhone 5 didn't ?

Explain it, seems contradictory "opinions". I'm talking facts :

- Galaxy S was an established brand
- iPhone was an established brand
- Galaxy S3 was a new model
- iPhone 5 was a new model

Why do you think these 2 things are any different when facts say they are the same ?
 
This would be great for someone's first or only computing device. The plastic casing will give it better reception and the larger screen is what you want for your only device mainly for web browsing and such. Since Apple products can output to telelvisions, it can be the sole or main device for someone.
 
Late to the party, Apple?

so...does that mean they should never ever ever do a larger screened iPhone since they're "late" in bringing one out?

I never understood this mentality. "Oh, Apple is going to do something that another manufacturer has been doing for years now! Way to go!". Does this mean, since Apple didn't think of it or do it 2 years ago then it's totally off limits to them? So, in 10 years they still have to be married to this 4" screen because...heaven forbid...they should make a bigger screen?

Some people want a bigger screen, some don't. Why not one for one, and one for the other? What is the big deal?
 
Won't the 4.8" screen create a problem for applications and games? Unless It has a usable resolution of 1024x768 we will have the stretching that the Android platform has..

Not sure if anyone has said this yet - didn't feel like scrolling through all the comments to make this point -

If Apple chose to make a larger iPhone, they wouldn't need to hurt devs all the much. Simply doubling the iPhone 5's resolution gives you 2272x1280 - which would be a very high ppi phone (for a 4.8" - we'd be looking at about 535ish ppi - which could be labeled SuperRetina).....

I say "simply" but IGZO would certainly have to be part of the "iPhone math" for that to happen.
 
and then what? Keep increasing screen size to match up w the ANdroid camp? All the new Android phones will have a 5 inch screen this year. Do you want Apple to have an XL in their portfolio as well?

Nah...

my guess is that 4.8in will be good enough.

But in the end the market will determine the best size for a phone,

Going beyond 5 will start pushing in on the mini tabs, and I for one am not interested in a mini pad/tablet phone.
 
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