Apple Rumored to Discontinue iPad Mini

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  1. recoil80 macrumors 68000

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    This.
    Having more choice is always good for the customer. Just make an iPad mini with the same specs as the new iPad at a similar price and let the user decide which form factor is the best.
    Some folks like the smallest form factor available and that's the reason why they still sell iPhone SE.
     
  2. Balty macrumors 6502

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    Rumours like this are a great way to get people to buy your old leftover stock!
     
  3. Michael Scrip macrumors 601

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    According to the "Similar Threads" below... these rumors have been around since 2014

    :)
     
  4. Lancer macrumors 68020

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    Love my iPad Mini, only got it as I don't use the iPad much and it was all I could afford at the time, I guess the new low cost iPad has taken over as the best value but for the compact size the Mini can't be beaten. Only reason I need to upgrade is the 16Gb isn't cutting it any more. I really hope the Mini can continue in some form!
     
  5. Sevendaymelee macrumors regular

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    I find that the perfect size for book reading is buying and reading an actual book.
     
  6. Wanted797 macrumors 6502

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    Can actually agree with Steve Jobs on this one, I had a iPad 3rd gen, that I upgraded for the iPad Mini 2. I thought it was great and light and awesome (compared to 3rd gen with a case it was like a feather!). I still have it today and all I can say is it's hopeless for getting work done. It's 'okay' for consuming but I tired to use it for a work trip this week and it was terrible and I hated it, took my bulky 2011 MacBook with me the next day, I won't buy a mini again.
     
  7. Abazigal macrumors 604

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    Seems it wasn't too long ago that people were complaining about the iPad lineup being too bloated and now people are complaining when Apple starts to streamline their selection of devices.
     
  8. iGeek2014 macrumors 68000

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    Before iPhone 6 Plus was released I used to have iPad Mini 2.

    I enjoyed how portable it was (I could read a local paper offline in my lunch break at work via their app) but once I started to use the 6 Plus it sadly became redundant for my needs.

    Until proven otherwise I am going to take this rumour with a pinch of salt but it does make me wonder if there is some truth in the matter given that Apple increased the capacity a couple of months ago with no other 'upgrades'.
     
  9. profets macrumors 68040

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    An iPad mini 4 can be a much more comfortable device to hold than many books which can become large in size. Also very nice being able to read in the dark in bed or adjusting text size as needed.
     
  10. HobeSoundDarryl, May 17, 2017
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    HobeSoundDarryl macrumors 603

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    Perhaps these people are looking at the bunching of sizes at the small-screen and large-screen ends and desiring something (to stay) in the mid-size?

    Small-screen End (difference from smallest screen to largest screen: 1.8")
    • 4.0" or 4.5" iPhone SE 2
    • 4.7" iPhone 7S
    • 5.5" iPhone 7S Plus
    • 5.8" iPhone 8 Plus (rumored)
    ****** GAP of 3.9" between rumored iPhone 8 screen size and 9.7" iPad ******

    Large-screen end (difference from smallest screen to largest screen: 3.2")
    • 9.7" iPad
    • 10.5" iPad Pro (rumored)
    • 12.9" iPad Pro
    Maybe the "complainers" would rather lop off a size or two at the small and large screen ends rather than eliminate the size that plugs into the big gap? For example, do we really need a 5.5" and (rumored) 5.8" screen iPhone available at the same time? Difference between those is 3 TENTHS of an inch.

    Do we really need a 9.7" and (rumored) 10.5" screen iPad? Difference between those 2 screens is < 1".

    Meanwhile, you look at the almost 4" gap between those groupings and there seems to be an opportunity there... to either keep by filling it with a new Mini 5 or dump and have guys like you spinning why the creation of such a big gap makes perfect sense since people are complaining about too many model variations. I know that some of us see it as some kind of job to rationalize anything we think Apple wants to do, but sometimes one can just apply common sense as a CONSUMER and recognize that bunching screen sizes up at a small and large sizes basically begs for a mid-size. If a problem is too many models, get rid of 1 of the 3 large sizes and 1-2 of the 4 small sizes, but don't create a 4" gap by choice... and expect those that really like the medium size to buy either the small or the large instead.

    Stepping down to a phone doesn't make sense to all because it is far more expensive and gives up a great deal of real estate (see post #209 for a visual comparison). Stepping up to a full-size screen doesn't make sense to all because one gives up some portability and just don't want the added size & weight. For those that like the Mini, it's the "just right" tablet size... much like being asked if you want small, medium or large and you opt for medium.

    Those who don't like the Mini are NOT forced to buy one. But those who do like the Mini have the option (at least for the moment) to get what they want too. There's nothing wrong with that to "fix" (by eliminating the choice).

    Personally? I speculate this rumor- if true- is about profit margin. Mini has always been faulted as not being as profitable as the full-size iPad. My solution: instead of killing it, raise the price to get the desired profit and spin it as "miniaturization costs more." If my speculation is correct, Apple could then get what they want out of the Mini and Apple consumers could still have a choice that is not too small (and far more expensive) or too large. The "just right" size for those people would just cost a little more. It's not exactly unheard of for Apple to roll out a new model of something and raise prices.
     
  11. gorskiegangsta macrumors 65816

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    Discontinue the 7.85" model, but still have 9.7" pro model in addition to 10.5" one? Tim Cook's legendary logic must be at work here.

    Inb4 the 11.3" and 12.1" models next year, because every 0.8inch size bracket needs to be covered.
     
  12. rhett7660 macrumors G4

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    I was referring to the iPad Mini.... Never had one of the iPod Touch's.
     
  13. symphara macrumors 6502a

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    There's no "streamlining" here. Since the new iPad, there are several large choices of same or slightly different dimensions, while the iPad mini wasn't updated and now there are rumours of it being discontinued.

    Streamlining would be to have 2-3 tablets of significantly different sizes.
     
  14. Lesser Evets macrumors 68040

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    Too small to be practical, aside from one-handed porn observation in bed... which is probably what 99% of iPad Mini owners did frequently. The iPad Pro is the most-practical size due to how it mimics the size of letter paper.
     
  15. AppleRobert macrumors 603

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    Mini ate into larger iPad sales, why do you think we now have a large iPad priced ar $329?

    Apple has no choice. Make a new cheaper Mini or priced the same and they be going round in a circle again, eating away larger iPad sales.
     
  16. dwfaust macrumors 68040

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    Your observation is spot on... for you and your use case. There are many of us for whom a tablet with a 7.9" screen does, in fact, work well. It's the perfect sized device for my own personal use, and because it is perfectly sized for me, I will continue to buy this size tablet for as long as it is available, and if/when it disappears from the list of available devices, I will lament its demise.
     
  17. symphara macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah, you probably use a stand.

    Aside from your unsavoury habits, the Mini's form factor is very practical for reading and travelling. I have a big iPad but never found its size compelling.
     
  18. sracer macrumors 603

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    No you weren't but if it makes you feel better, keep thinking that. :p And if that rumor turns out to be false (and there is a Mini 5 or Mini Pro) you can come back to this thread and confess that you were wrong all along. rotflmao.gif

    For many of us, the iPhone Plus is NOT a replacement for the iPad Mini. We don't want to put a big slab of aluminum up to our faces. We started out with oversized mobile phones back-in-the-day and don't want to "go back to the future".

    The iPhone SE is exactly the right size for me even though my hand are larger than President Trump's. The Mini 4 makes a great traveling companion for those situations where the 12.9 Pro is too large (like on an plane).

    We'll just have to see if this rumor pans out.
     
  19. iLilana macrumors 6502a

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    hope not. Was going to upgrade this year. I like the size because its not a phone but is more convenient than a normal or pro iPad. I'm betting they just up the name to iPad mini pro so they can charge a couple hundred more dollars per device.
     
  20. iapplelove macrumors 68040

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    Obviously a larger iPhone.
     
  21. macgeek18 macrumors 68000

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    Some of us love our 7.9" tablets. I carry my Mini with me everyday everywhere. I even teach from it since I can hold it in one hand.
     
  22. nick42983 macrumors 6502

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    My original iPad Mini from 2013 still serves me well for web browsing or Kindle reading. My iPhone 6+ is used much more though. If new iPhones will indeed have an even bigger screen size, they would squeeze the iPad Mini out of the market.
     
  23. lec0rsaire macrumors regular

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    The iPad mini never really made much sense. It was released to compete with the galaxy tabs and kindle fire. It definitely doesn't make any sense after the iPhone 6/6s/7 plus. The whole point of the iPad is to provide a larger iOS experience that allows for both enhanced productivity and a better experience for artists on the go. The iPad mini was great for reading books, but so many already use a much cheaper Kindle or similar device for that.

    I understand those who like having more choice, the more streamlined and focused your product lineup is, the less chance there is for confusion and canibalization. Too many options and people will be confused. Too little options and you won't be able to satisfy everyone with a "one size fits all" approach. Apple knows what it's doing. Do you guys think their products would have such high residual values if they had 20 different phones, notebooks and tablets like many PC and Android manufacturers have?
     
  24. Rlittle89 macrumors newbie

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    Good point, but I think it's just that the Mini form factor doesn't work well for Apple, because it has to be the most horribly priced product in the lineup. $400 starting point for a wifi only version when you can buy the new entry level iPad 9.7" for $329. It just exists in a weird space.
     
  25. mcrawley macrumors member

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    I think apple is missing the boat with the mini as they place their entire focus on the power users trying to replace a laptop with larger Pro models.

    The mini is a great size for a number of people. Whenever I hand mine over to someone to use, they often ask what model it is and note how it is a great size for reading. I find this particularly true for Baby Boomers - especially women. They like the size and weight* compared to the larger ones. The Mini is just proper "book-sized" and closer to the Kindle's and other e-readers than the larger iPad models are but the e-readers don't do as much . As the population ages, having a model that is lighter and easier for seniors to hold could be a huge benefit. My parents likely won't ever buy another laptop but will keep buying ipads.

    Reading on a phone isn't the same as reading on an mini. I can read much longer on an my iPad mini than I can on my 7+.

    * Weight is quite subjective as the perception of it is often relative and cases often affect what one perceives.
     

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