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Apple Rumored to Introduce FineWoven Successor With iPhone 17
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Totally agree. But when you drop it and break the silicone “seal” and it all starts to unravel, it’s bad.
The right thing to do has bit them in the rear many times already. They remove stuff and then realize how much of a bigger problem they created. None of the current Apple cases are durable now, silicone will get slippery, plastic just has horrible grip, especially with people with small hands and bigger phones. Granted there’s third party brands that make quality replacements like Bull strap and nomad, but that patina and durability from leather cases are unmatched to anything recent.
Believe it or not there’s a huge majority that cares but like any other consumer, they moved on. However, if they bring it back, it would be cool whether vegan or not if it feels right. A lot of consumers want iPods to return but we know they won’t make them again, hence why they get other alternatives like walkmans or portable hi res audio players or just upgrade the internals of their iPod classics. Money that could be made for Apple, but they make up for it on services now, etc.
So I ordered FineWoven, read horrible reviews before it arrived and then it was stigmatized before I ever used it.
The criticism was outrageously overblown and overstated. Having said that, I still prefer the back leather.
Cowhide is sustainable. Not using it is more environmentally unfriendly than using it.
How is it the “right thing to do”?
This is not true. Cowhide is a byproduct, not a single cow is slaughtered for their hide. Reducing leather demand doesn’t decrease cow slaughter, cattle are raised for meat and dairy. It increases cowhide waste, with unused hides often landfilled or burned, adding to environmental issues:
“industry reports suggest 10-20% of hides go unused, equating to ~3-6 billion pounds of potential cowhide waste yearly.”
Topic: Waste generation worldwide
Find up-to-date statistics and facts on waste generation worldwide.
www.statista.com
America is obsessed with beef. But it has no use for hides, so leather prices plunge
A glut of cowhides has caused leather prices to plummet.
www.latimes.com
We just want genuine leather back. It's not complicated.
The comments in here are fascinating. Need to bust out the popcorn.
I could care less what material my case is of. I am just tired of dull dark colors. Hope they do some brighter options that look glossy, like a Laguna Seca blue.
I could care less what material my case is of. I am just tired of dull dark colors. Hope they do some brighter options that look glossy, like a Laguna Seca blue.
Even if Apple did start selling leather again, i would not buy one from Apple. Since Apple stopped selling them i leather to BullStrap. Way better quality and not painted so they actually wear like leather should not chip and just look stupid after use.
I wish they'd bring back leather, as long as people eat meat leather is sustainable and just as or more environmentally friendly than things like finewoven since it typically comes from animals *already being slaughtered for meat*. I understand the ethical objections but it doesnt save any animals. I've switched to andar and bullstrap for my leather cases and such now, but Apple's first party ones were always solid and I wouldve been happy to keep buying those
I don't use any case. It just gets annoying how dumb they're being about it. Every other year is make some new case that ends up being terrible, then they go and try to make a new one. Just stick with what works.
After 2 years of usage on my iPhone 15 Pro, and dropping my phone on concrete (once from one of those city scooter thingies, and I was moving fast) - my FineWoven case has held up quite well. Much better than any silicone case I had. A few scratches, still looks nice and it’s still pleasant to the touch.
I honestly don’t get the outrage. I really don’t. I assumed the case would break apart and just decided to use it until it did, not taking any special care, quite the opposite. And it held up great. If I could get the same one for iPhone 17 Pro, I would.
I honestly don’t get the outrage. I really don’t. I assumed the case would break apart and just decided to use it until it did, not taking any special care, quite the opposite. And it held up great. If I could get the same one for iPhone 17 Pro, I would.
Welp, I love your honesty. I’ve lost over 50 lbs and have 15 or so left and joined a gym. Granted, I was stuck in bed one day with a herniated disc that made me hope for a heart attack or stroke, so I’m pretty motivated to not go back to that. That said, my apple leather case I got on sale for $17 is my favorite thing I’ve ever purchased. I simply love it.
Introducing the successor to FineWoven: MediocreWoven! We think you're going to be just okay with it.
Leather is not an environmental by-product of cows we happen to slaughter for meat anyways.
In many markets, leather is a significant co-product. The value of hides contributes to the overall profitability of cattle farming, so demand for leather helps sustain livestock production rather than simply using “waste.”
And even if hides are used, the environmental costs of raising cattle (deforestation, methane, water use) don’t disappear. Leather production adds further impacts through chemical tanning, energy use, and toxic waste and water pollution.
When leather demand rises, it will incentivize more cattle farming.
So moving away from “wrapping tech in dead animal skins” is definitely a good move from an environmental perspective.
What is “right” for you is not right for 99% of the civilized world. Leather is, by far, the best and most durable material for such uses.
And to imply that companies do things for “noble” aims, give me a break. If they were really concerned about whatever overstated impacts on the environment, they would not charge you double for those “bio”-certified products you see in grocery stores. Same for those companies asking you to accept online bills instead of paper: cost reduction.
Likewise, as for Apple’s decision to remove charges or headphones, exactly the same hypocritical crap: the ONLY reason they did it was to increase margins while keeping the SAME prices for customers. Nothing to do with electronic waste at all, other than encouraging you to give them your unused stuff for free so they can recycle it and, again, sell it to you at brand new prices.